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  You begin with a base set against which later deltas are patched.
  To begin using ctm you must grab the latest base set and all deltas
  after that; once you have processed those you can process later
! deltas you receive on the mailing list.
  
  <P>
  Bases are generated approximately once every 100 relative deltas, so you never
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  You begin with a base set against which later deltas are patched.
  To begin using ctm you must grab the latest base set and all deltas
  after that; once you have processed those you can process later
! deltas you receive on the mailing list. The base sets are split
! into pieces of 1400k each for easier downloading over bad lines
! and you can even put them onto floppies this way.
  
  <P>
  Bases are generated approximately once every 100 relative deltas, so you never
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  deltas up to present via ftp from the site listed below.  Sizes are:
  
  <ul>
! <li> approximately 55Mb for base/OpenBSD-src.XXXX.tar.gz
! <li> uncompressed, this is 250M or so
! <li> approximately 80Mb for base/OpenBSD-cvs.XXXX.tar.gz
! <li> uncompressed, this is 370M or so
! <li> relative deltas vary from 10k to 100k, and occasionally a couple of meg
  <li> ctm always splits deltas into 100k messages which are reassembled
       automatically
  </ul>
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  deltas up to present via ftp from the site listed below.  Sizes are:
  
  <ul>
! <li> approximately 115Mb for OpenBSD-cvs
! <li> approximately 37Mb for OpenBSD-cvs-x11
! <li> approximately 65Mb for OpenBSD-src
! <li> approximately 35Mb for OpenBSD-src-x11
! <li> approximately 2Mb for OpenBSD-ports
! <li> keep in mind that that are compressed sizes - count about five times
!      of those sizes for the unpacked files
! <li> relative deltas vary from 10k to 100k, and occasionally a couple of Mb
  <li> ctm always splits deltas into 100k messages which are reassembled
       automatically
  </ul>
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  <LI>Subscribe to the ctm mailing list for the source set you want.
  <p>
     There are several mailing lists related to ctm.  There is a list for
!    updates to the source tree, a list for updates to the cvs tree, a list
!    for announcements where I'll post important announcements to ctm users,
!    and a list for seeing log messages from the ctm delta generator runs.
     <p>
     The following commands will subscribe you to the appropriate lists:
  <br><br><tt>
! For the source tree: <br>
!     <b>echo subscribe OpenBSD-src | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b><br>
! For the cvs tree:<br>
      <b>echo subscribe OpenBSD-cvs | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b><br>
! For the announce list:<br>
!     <b>echo subscribe ctm-announce | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b><br>
  For the ctm log list:<br>
      <b>echo subscribe ctm-log | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b><br>
  </tt><br>
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  <LI>Subscribe to the ctm mailing list for the source set you want.
  <p>
     There are several mailing lists related to ctm.  There is a list for
!    updates to the updates to cvs tree, a list for the source tree, a list
!    for the X11 part of both and one for the ports tree plus
!    a list for seeing log messages from the ctm delta generator runs.
     <p>
     The following commands will subscribe you to the appropriate lists:
  <br><br><tt>
! For the cvs tree (without the X11 part):<br>
      <b>echo subscribe OpenBSD-cvs | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b><br>
! For the X11 part of the cvs tree:<br>
!     <b>echo subscribe OpenBSD-cvs-x11 | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b><br>
! For the source tree (without the X11 part): <br>
!     <b>echo subscribe OpenBSD-src | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b><br>
! For the X11 part of the source tree: <br>
!     <b>echo subscribe OpenBSD-src-x11 | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b><br>
! For the ports tree: <br>
!     <b>echo subscribe OpenBSD-ports-ctm | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b><br>
  For the ctm log list:<br>
      <b>echo subscribe ctm-log | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b><br>
  </tt><br>
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  <p>
  
  <li>Grab the base set from the ftp site below, in the subdirectory 
! <b>base-split/src</b> (for OpenBSD-src) or <b>base-split/cvs</b>
! (for OpenBSD-cvs).  Grab all files in that directory, and once you have
  them all you can create the base source tree with the following command:
  
  <br><br>
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  <p>
  
  <li>Grab the base set from the ftp site below, in the subdirectory 
! <b>base/OpenBSD-cvs</b> (for OpenBSD-cvs) or <b>base/OpenBSD-src</b>
! (for OpenBSD-src).  Grab all files in that directory, and once you have
  them all you can create the base source tree with the following command:
  
  <br><br>
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  <p>
  You now need to grab the deltas which have been generated since the base
! was generated.  Go to the ftp site below in the subdirectory <b>src</b> or
! <b>cvs</b> and grab every file whose number is <it>larger</it> than the 
! number of the base you used.
  
  <p>
! The address of the base and deltas is:
  
  <ul>
! <li><a href="ftp://ctm.OpenBSD.org:/pub/bsd/CTM/OpenBSD/">
!      ftp://ctm.OpenBSD.org:/pub/bsd/CTM/OpenBSD/
  </a>
  </ul>
  
  <p>
  <ul>
  <li><b>NOTE:</b> I'm very interested in finding other sites around the world
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  <p>
  You now need to grab the deltas which have been generated since the base
! was generated.  Go to the ftp site below in the subdirectory
! <b>OpenBSD-cvs</b> or <b>OpenBSD-src</b> for instance and grab
! every file whose number is <it>larger</it> than the number of the
! base you used.
  
  <p>
! The addresses for the base and deltas are:
  
  <ul>
! <li><a href="ftp://ctm.OpenBSD.org:/pub/OpenBSD-ctm/">
!      ftp://ctm.OpenBSD.org:/pub/OpenBSD-ctm/
  </a>
  </ul>
  
+ <ul>
+ <li><a href="ftp://ctm.ca.OpenBSD.org:/pub/OpenBSD-ctm/">
+      ftp://ctm.ca.OpenBSD.org:/pub/OpenBSD-ctm/
+ </a>
+ </ul>
+ 
+ <ul>
+ <li><a href="ftp://ctm.se.OpenBSD.org:/pub/OpenBSD-ctm/">
+      ftp://ctm.se.OpenBSD.org:/pub/OpenBSD-ctm/
+ </a>
+ </ul>
+ 
  <p>
  <ul>
  <li><b>NOTE:</b> I'm very interested in finding other sites around the world
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    <br>
    <tt>
       <b>cd target<br>
!      ctm -v -v /deltas/OpenBSD-src.*</b><br></tt>
  or<br><tt>
!      <b>cd target<br>
!      ctm -v -v /deltas/OpenBSD-cvs.*</b><br>
!   </tt><br>
! where <b>target</b> is the directory where you want your source tree to be,
  and <b>deltas</b> is where you have stored the deltas.
  <p>
  It will take some time to run all of the deltas, but the daily invocations
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    <br>
    <tt>
       <b>cd target<br>
!      ctm -v -v /deltas/OpenBSD-cvs.*</b><br></tt>
  or<br><tt>
! where <b>target</b> is the directory where you want your cvs tree to be,
  and <b>deltas</b> is where you have stored the deltas.
  <p>
  It will take some time to run all of the deltas, but the daily invocations
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  <p>
  The drawback, however, is the amount of diskspace it takes.  A checked-out
! source tree takes about 250MB or so, but if you have your own cvs tree you
! need 370MB or so for it, <b>plus</b> another 250MB for the checked out tree.
  
  <p>
! This doesn't count the 100MB or more you will need to do a build (depending
  on the architecture).
  
  <p>
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  <p>
  The drawback, however, is the amount of diskspace it takes.  A checked-out
! source tree takes about 300Mb or so, but if you have your own cvs tree you
! need 400Mb or so for it, <b>plus</b> another 300Mb for the checked out tree.
  
  <p>
! This doesn't count the 100Mb or more you will need to do a build (depending
  on the architecture).
  
  <p>
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  <li> Mailing lists:
  
     <ul>
-    <li> <b>echo subscribe OpenBSD-src | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b>
     <li> <b>echo subscribe OpenBSD-cvs | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b>
!    <li> <b>echo subscribe ctm-announce | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b>
     <li> <b>echo subscribe ctm-log | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b>
     </ul>
  
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  <li> Mailing lists:
  
     <ul>
     <li> <b>echo subscribe OpenBSD-cvs | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b>
!    <li> <b>echo subscribe OpenBSD-cvs-x11 | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b>
!    <li> <b>echo subscribe OpenBSD-src | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b>
!    <li> <b>echo subscribe OpenBSD-src-x11 | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b>
!    <li> <b>echo subscribe OpenBSD-ports-ctm | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b>
     <li> <b>echo subscribe ctm-log | mail majordomo@OpenBSD.org</b>
     </ul>
  
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       tree, but if you don't have source or binaries, the source is here too):
  
     <ul>
!    <li> <a href="ftp://ctm.OpenBSD.org:/pub/bsd/CTM/OpenBSD">
!          ftp://ctm.OpenBSD.org:/pub/bsd/CTM/OpenBSD
  	   </a>
!    <li> <a href="ftp://ftp6.de.FreeBSD.org:/pub/bsd/CTM/OpenBSD">
!          ftp://ftp6.de.FreeBSD.org:/pub/bsd/CTM/OpenBSD
  	   </a>
     </ul>
  </ul>
  
  <p>
  I will make any important notes and announcements about ctm in:
  <ul>
- <li> ctm-announce@OpenBSD.org
  <li> misc@OpenBSD.org
  <li> announce@OpenBSD.org
  </ul>
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       tree, but if you don't have source or binaries, the source is here too):
  
     <ul>
!    <li> <a href="ftp://ctm.OpenBSD.org:/pub/OpenBSD-ctm">
!          ftp://ctm.OpenBSD.org:/pub/OpenBSD-ctm
  	   </a>
!    <li> <a href="ftp://ctm.ca.OpenBSD.org:/pub/OpenBSD-ctm">
!          ftp://ctm.ca.OpenBSD.org:/pub/OpenBSD-ctm
  	   </a>
+    <li> <a href="ftp://ctm.se.OpenBSD.org:/pub/OpenBSD-ctm">
+          ftp://ctm.se.OpenBSD.org:/pub/OpenBSD-ctm
+ 	   </a>
     </ul>
  </ul>
  
  <p>
  I will make any important notes and announcements about ctm in:
  <ul>
  <li> misc@OpenBSD.org
  <li> announce@OpenBSD.org
  </ul>
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       me getting the delta generation running.
  
  <li> Theo de Raadt (deraadt@theos.com) for making OpenBSD possible and
!      giving me the resources i needed for creating the ctm
!      deltas on cvs.OpenBSD.org
  
! <li> Wolfram Schneider (wosch@FreeBSD.org) for setting up the ftp space
!      for the deltas on ctm.OpenBSD.org
  
  <li> ... and all the others who contributed indirectly ..
  </ul>
  
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       me getting the delta generation running.
  
  <li> Theo de Raadt (deraadt@theos.com) for making OpenBSD possible and
!      initially giving me the resources i needed for creating the ctm
!      deltas on cvs.OpenBSD.org (now they are generated elsewhere) and
!      for the nameserver magic
  
! <li> Todd C. Miller (millert@OpenBSD.org) for setting up and
!      maintaining the ctm mailinglists
  
+ <li> Bob Beck (beck@OpenBSD.org), Artur Grabowski (art@OpenBSD.org),
+      Magnus Holmberg (mho@OpenBSD.org) and
+      Wolfram Schneider (wosch@FreeBSD.org) for setting up the ftp space
+      for the bases and deltas on ctm.*OpenBSD.org
+ 
  <li> ... and all the others who contributed indirectly ..
  </ul>
  
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