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! Postage will vary depending on your location relative to the shipping
! address.  Regular post will be used unless special arrangements are
! made.  Shipping cost is therefore expected to be around $3 - $8 USD
! (yes, that is in addition to the base $30 USD price).  Packages will
! be mailed from Calgary, Alberta, Canada.  Typical postage rates for
! quantity 1 are roughly:
  <ul>
! <li>Canada $3 CDN.  Expect seven days.
! <li>USA $3 USD ($4 CDN). Expect seven to ten days.
! <li>World $4 USD ($5 CDN). Expect fourteen days.
! </ul>
! <p>
! If you want your CD to come very quickly, you can choose Fedex.
! If you choose Fedex, you very likely do NOT want to use the credit
! card ordering system, but want to order your package by phoning the
! Computer Shop phone number below.  Typical Fedex rates for quantity
! 1 are roughly:
! <ul>
! <li>Canada $12.50 CDN. Expect two days.
! <li>USA $18 USD ($24.50 CDN).  Expect two days.
! <li>World $36 USD ($49.50 CDN). Expect three days.
! </ul>
! <p>
  
  
  <hr>
  <a name=european></a>
! <h3><li><font color=#e00000>European</font><br></h3>
  If you are in one of the following countries:
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+ <p> Postage will vary depending on your location relative to the shipping
+ address.  Regular First Class or Airmail post will be used unless special
+ arrangements are made.  Note that regular postal service is not a trackable
+ service (you knew that, right?), and shipping is FOB our depot.  Say "please
+ insure" in the comments, if you want postal insurance.  
+ 
+ <p>Items lost in the regular mail are at your risk and expense, but we only
+ charge cost of materials to replace them, so paying the $10 (or even $30
+ outside of North America!) additional postage and insurance (partly due to
+ having to change to an insurable class of mailing) costs more than normal
+ postage and replacement of a CD ROM set at cost of materials (go figure!). 
+ 
+ <p>Less than 1% of items go missing in the mail; it might be yours, yet
+ paying for postal insurance is an expensive gamble.  But if you absolutely
+ can't stand risk, do insure by all means. In North America consider
+ specifying Express Mail
+ <a href=www.canadapost.ca>(trackable)</a>,
+ or a courier like FEDEX <a href=www.fedex.com>(also trackable)</a>.  
+ 
+ <p>Note that shipping cost for a CD set is therefore expected to be around $3 -
+ $5 USD (yes, that is in addition to the base $30 USD price).  Packages will
+ generally be mailed from Calgary, Alberta, Canada.  (Some US orders are
+ mailed from a US depot -- but unlikely at initial release time). Typical
+ airmail postage rates for quantity 1 are roughly:
  <p>
! <ul> 
! <li>Canada $3 CDN.  Expect 7 days. 
! <li>USA $3 USD ($4 CDN). Expect 7 - 10 days. 
! <li>World $4 USD ($5 CDN). Expect two weeks. 
! </ul> <p> 
! 
! A new service, previously not available, but for Canada and USA only, is
! Express Post, with 4 day delivery, up to $50 insurance included, and
! trackability.  <a href=www.canadapost.ca>www.canadapost.ca</a>
! This is now an new option on the web order form.
! 
! <p> For a single CD set: 
! <ul> 
! <li> Canada $7.  Expect 3 - 4 days.
! <li> USA $10.  Expect 4 - 5 days.
! </ul><p>
! 
! If you want your CD to come very quickly, you can choose Fedex or UPS
! overnight. Note, that for <i>single</i> CD's it is cheaper to get overnight
! delivery than to get 2 or 3 day delivery!  If you choose <b>overnight</b>,
! you very likely <b>do NOT</b> want to use the Internet web ordering system,
! but rather want to order your package by phoning the Computer Shop phone
! number (403 243-4356).  By phoning before 3PM Mountain Time, you can usually  
! have it by early the next morning!   
! 
! <p>If you are ordering the CD plus other items, consider having only the CD
! sent by overnight and other things by regular airmail or express post.  CD's
! are relatively inexpensive to send by courier (we class them as documents),
! whereas T-shirts, and especially posters, are quite expensive that way.
! 
! <p>For Canada, and USA only, you may specify "use credit card" in the box
! where it says <i>courier account number</i>.  In that case we will pass on
! your credit card number to the courier company.  You will get a separate
! debit from them (for the shipping portion only).  But we prefer if you do
! have a courier account number already. If requesting shipping to a company
! address, ask if they have one that can be used (or phone FEDEX or UPS and
! ask what it is).
! 
! <p>Typical Fedex or UPS priority shipping rates for quantity 1 are roughly:
  <ul>
! <li>Canada $13.00 CDN.  Overnight if phoned in before 3PM MST. 
! <li>USA $18.50 USD ($26.50 CDN). Overnight (to most cities) if phoned in before 3PM MST. 
! <li>World $36 USD ($55.00 CDN) -- 2 to 4 day service.  Must have courier account #. If necessary,
!     apply for one or, otherwise, use insured AIR MAIL post for the closest 
!     equivalent.  
! </ul> <p>
  
  
  <hr>
  <a name=european></a>
! <h3><li><font color=#e00000>Western Europe</font><br></h3>
  If you are in one of the following countries:
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  <h3><li><font color=#e00000>USA purchasing:</font></h3><p>
  
! The standard OpenBSD web ordering system ships from
! Canada or the USA (depending on destination).  Both
! <a href=https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order><strong>SSL</strong> secure credit card ordering system for</a> and
! <a href=http://https.openbsd.org:80/cgi-bin/order><strong>non-SSL</strong> credit card ordering systems</a> are available.
! <p>
  
- You can also order the following items from the <a href="http://mall.daemonnews.org/">DaemonNews Mall</a>:
- <ul>
- <li><a href="https://mall.daemonnews.org/shopcart/shop/cat.mhtml?category=946586552">2.6 CDROM</a>.
- </ul>
- <p>
  
- You can also order the following items from fatbrain.com 
- (orders received by 4 p.m. ship the same day)
- <ul>
- <li><a href="http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=0968363733">2.5 CDROM</a>.
- </ul>
- <p>
- You can also order from AMAZON.COM (though delivery is slow):
- <ul>
- <li><a href=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0968363717/openbsdA>2.3 CDROM</a>
- <li><a href=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0968363725/openbsdA>2.4 CDROM</a>
- <li><a href=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0968363733>2.5 CDROM</a>
- </ul>
- <p>
- 
  <a href=http://www.bigmall.com/openbsd.html>Universal CD-ROM
  (With a <strong>non-SSL</strong> web ordering form!)</a><br>
  520 Lawrence Expwy. #307<br>
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  <h3><li><font color=#e00000>USA purchasing:</font></h3><p>
  
! The standard OpenBSD web ordering system ships from Canada or the USA
! (depending on destination, and sometimes on stock levels at the depots). 
! <br>Both <a href=https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order><strong>SSL</strong> 
! secure credit card ordering system for</a> and 
! <br><a href=http://https.openbsd.org:80/cgi-bin/order><strong>non-SSL</strong>
! credit card ordering systems</a> are available. <p>
  
  
  <a href=http://www.bigmall.com/openbsd.html>Universal CD-ROM
  (With a <strong>non-SSL</strong> web ordering form!)</a><br>
  520 Lawrence Expwy. #307<br>
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  <li><a href="http://www.softpro.com/0-9683637-5-X.html">2.7 CDROM</a>.
  </ul>
- <p>
- 
  <a href="http://www.softpro.com/info.html">Click here</a> for more
  information
  <p>
  
  Cheapbytes
  <a href=http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart/0340010001>
  (With a SSL web ordering form)</a><br>
  <p>
  
  In San Antonio, Texas contact <a href=mailto:willmann@idworld.net>Robert Willmann, Jr.</a><br>
  <p>
  
  In Boulder, Colorado contact <a href=mailto:millert@openbsd.org>Todd Miller.</a><br>
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  PRIVACY STATEMENT:<br>
  Note: None of our ordering information is given to third parties.  You will
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  <li><a href="http://www.softpro.com/0-9683637-5-X.html">2.7 CDROM</a>.
  </ul>
  <a href="http://www.softpro.com/info.html">Click here</a> for more
  information
  <p>
+ <p>
  
+ 
  Cheapbytes
  <a href=http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart/0340010001>
  (With a SSL web ordering form)</a><br>
  <p>
  
+ Go for <i>Calilfornia Gold</i> in Cupertino, with: 
+ <a href=http://www.homestead.com/openbsd/index.html>NetGold Solutions 
+ -- (with both SSL and non-SSL web order forms).</a>
+ <p>
+ 
  In San Antonio, Texas contact <a href=mailto:willmann@idworld.net>Robert Willmann, Jr.</a><br>
  <p>
  
  In Boulder, Colorado contact <a href=mailto:millert@openbsd.org>Todd Miller.</a><br>
+ <p>
+ You can also order the following items from the <a href="http://mall.daemonnews.org/">DaemonNews Mall</a>:
+ <ul>
+ <li><a href="https://mall.daemonnews.org/shopcart/shop/cat.mhtml?category=946586552">2.6 CDROM</a>.
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ 
+ You can also order the following items from fatbrain.com 
+ (orders received by 4 p.m. ship the same day)
+ <ul>
+ <li><a href="http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=0968363733">2.5 CDROM</a>.
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ You can also order from AMAZON.COM (though delivery is slow):
+ <ul>
+ <li><a href=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0968363717/openbsdA>2.3 CDROM</a>
+ <li><a href=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0968363725/openbsdA>2.4 CDROM</a>
+ <li><a href=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0968363733>2.5 CDROM</a>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ 
+ 
+ 
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+ 
+ 
+ 
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  PRIVACY STATEMENT:<br>
  Note: None of our ordering information is given to third parties.  You will
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