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<li><font color=#e00000 size=+3><b>Worldwide</b> (to everywhere) </font><b>(but see |
<li><font color=#e00000 size=+3><b>Worldwide</b> (to everywhere) |
also Western Europe below)</b><br> The main place for ordering CDROMs is |
</font><b>(but see also Western Europe below)</b><br> The main place for |
via the Computer Shop of Calgary (the oldest continuously operating computer |
ordering CDROMs is via the Computer Shop of Calgary (until recently we were |
store in the world). You can make a purchase in the following ways:<p> |
the oldest continuously operating computer store in the world, now we are |
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only virtual). You can make a purchase in the following ways:<p> |
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shipping, like for single CD sets (see mail order costs below or ask us), |
shipping, like for single CD sets (see mail order costs below or ask us), |
just place a web order, select payment method "pre-arranged", and put a note |
just place a web order, select payment method "pre-arranged", and put a note |
in the comments section of the order that payment is being made by PayPal. |
in the comments section of the order that payment is being made by PayPal. |
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Pay in either US dollars, Canadian dollars or Euros. |
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<li> <strong>Bank Wire Transfer</strong>: Wire transfers within France are |
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possible with no surcharge, and cost is usually 10 Euros or less within the |
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common market. Cost of bank wire to or within North America is $25. We |
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have to add these to the cost of the order, plus, except in France, there |
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are costs at the sending end. Email us for bank wire instructions where |
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applicable. </ul><p> |
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<li> <strong>Bank Wire Transfer</strong>: Wire transfers within the Euro |
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zone are very inexpensive or free. Cost of bank wire outside the Euro zone |
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is usually about $25 US, $25 Canadian, or 25 Euros depending on destination |
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bank and origin bank. We have to add these to the cost of the order, plus, |
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except from within the Euro zone, there are costs at the sending end. Email |
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us for bank wire instructions where applicable. </ul><p> |
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<li><font color=#e00000>Telephone ordering:</font><br> |
<li><font color=#e00000>Telephone ordering:</font><br> |
To order by phone, dial <strong>1 (403) 243-4356</strong>. Please phone |
To order by phone, dial <strong>cell: 1 (403) 243-4356, office: (phone/fax) |
during weekdays, during the daytime, in North American Mountain Time. |
1 403 647-2200, messages: use cell phone.</strong>. Please phone during |
(Occasionally service is available after hours: 5PM-9PM weeknights and |
weekdays, during the daytime, in North American Mountain Time. (Occasionally |
10AM-9PM weekends. You can give it a try.) Have your Mastercard, VISA, |
service is available after hours: 5PM-9PM weeknights and 10AM-9PM weekends. |
or American Express ready. |
You can give it a try.) Have your Mastercard, VISA, or American Express |
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ready. <p> If you need to contact the Computer Shop directly, email to |
If you need to contact the Computer Shop directly, email to |
<a href="mailto:austin@openbsd.org">Austin Hook</a>. Major Institutions can fax |
<a href="mailto:austin@canuck.com">Austin Hook</a>. |
purchase orders to the Computer Shop at <strong>FAX #: 1 (403) 647-2200 |
Major Institutions can <Strong>FAX</strong> purchase orders to the Computer Shop |
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at <strong>1 (403) 283-2028 </strong>. |
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<li><font color=#e00000>Mail order:</font><br> |
<li><font color=#e00000>Mail order:</font><br> |
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Cost, including ordinary postage, for just one CD set, version 3.x, is: |
Cost, including ordinary postage, for just one CD set, version 3.x, is: |
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sent in either US, Euro or Canadian currencies to:</p> |
sent in either US, Euro or Canadian currencies to:</p> |
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The Computer Shop of Calgary LTD.<br> |
Mailing address:<br> |
1644 Broadview Road NW<br> |
Computer Shop of Calgary LTD.<br> |
Calgary, Alberta, Canada<br> |
Box 267<br> |
T2N 3H1</p> |
Milk River, Alberta, |
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Canada T0K 1M0</p> |
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Physical address (for couriers only):<br> |
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Computer Shop of Calgary LTD.<br> |
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104 1st Avenue NW<br> |
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Milk River, Alberta<br> |
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Canada T0K 1M0</p> |
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US mailing address:<br> |
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Computer Shop of Calgary LTD<br> |
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Box 28<br> |
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Sweet Grass, MT 59484 USA</p> |
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<p>Postage will vary depending on your location relative to the shipping |
<p>Postage will vary depending on your location relative to the shipping |
address. Special instructions should be specified in the comments of the |
address. Special instructions should be specified in the comments of the |
order. By default we ship as follows: Shipments of single CD sets to USA |
order. By default we ship as follows: Shipments of single CD sets to USA, |
and Canada will be sent by First Class (Air)mail. For other countries, and |
Canada, or any other country will be sent by FIRST CLASS (Air)mail.<p> |
for small shipments, we will typically use AirMail "Small Packet" class. |
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Note that these regular postal services are not trackable (you knew that, |
Tracking number notification and insurance cost for single CD's sent to the |
right?), and shipping is FOB our depot. Say "please insure" in the |
USA is free and included in the original cost of postage.<p> |
comments, if you want postal insurance and read carefully the discussion |
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about shipping insurance below. |
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<p><b>To insure or not to insure?</b> Items lost in the regular mail are at |
For Canada FIRST CLASS insurance is $5 CDN. This insurance may be paid |
your risk and expense. You agree to accept our shipping records as the |
either at time of order (you must so specify in the comment section of the |
final proof of shipment. However, if a problem does occur, your affidavit |
order), or, at the rate of $6 CDN, it may be paid after you find that the |
that the parcel was not received, plus our shipping records, are generally |
item has gone missing, and upon requesting the replacement. Unfortunately, |
sufficient to persuade Canada post to refund postage paid. Secondly, under |
unlike the USA, there is no tracking number service available for FIRST |
such circumstances, we will replace items lost, at manufacturing cost, which |
CLASS packets in Canada. If you require tracking number notification in |
is at most half price, and almost trivial for CD sets and posters. For |
Canada, you have to go to a more expensive class of mail called Express |
example a poster gone missing in the mail can be replaced for $2.<p> |
Post.<p> |
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Cost of insurance will vary according to the value of the shipment, except |
To Canada packages larger than 1 CD set are sent via Expedited Parcel by |
that for small shipments there is a minimum cost of about $7-10 (CDN $ in |
default. Tracking number notification is included in the postage cost. |
Canada, US $ elsewhere) - which is why we usually recommend not to insure |
Insurance is included at the cost of $1.20 CDN / $100 CDN. If you specify |
for small shipments. Moreover, inside USA and Canada, there is a service |
not to insure, in the comments section of your order, we only cover 1/2 the |
called (Priority) Express Post, which in addition to trackability and |
cost of the package, and you have to pick up the other 1/2, if something |
guaranteed faster delivery, includes some insurance. See further discussion |
goes missing in the mail. Express post, if specified explicitly, includes |
below.<p> |
insurance up to $100 CDN.<p> |
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<b>Default insurance for air parcels > 1 kg to USA:</b> Our post office offers |
To the USA, packages larger than 1 CD set, not including T-shirts, are sent |
default insurance up to $100 CDN (about $65 US) for air parcels weighing |
by media mail from Sweet Grass, Montana. Such shipments include tracking |
more than 1 kg and that means, really, twice or more than that amount, since |
number notification. We include a bit extra shipping cost so we ourselves |
we replace losses at cost. So for shipments of approximately 5 or more |
can cover loss or damage to the goods in the mail, given that regular mail |
T-shirts (depending on size) or 9 or more CD ROM sets, you can trust there |
insurance is not available for this class of mail. We ask you to pay only |
is at least some insurance, since by default we ship by air.<p> |
the re-shipment shipping cost in such cases.<p> |
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<b>Default insurance for air parcels > 2 kg sent outside USA/Canada:</b> |
Still, to the USA, where there are T-shirts in the package, due to overly |
Our post office offers default insurance of up to $100 CDN (about $65 US) |
complex customs documentation (complain to the lobbiests for the garment |
for air parcels weighing more than 2 kg. (comments in previous paragraph |
makers unions), packages containing T-shirts have to be sent by mail from |
apply here too).<p> |
Canada. Less than 1 kg (2.2 lbs) they are sent by "small packet" AIRMAIL. |
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There is no tracking on this service, but there is up to $100 CDN ($80 US) |
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insurance included in the price of postage (which varies by weight and |
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destination state). Additional insurance for "small packet" is not |
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available. For packages weighing more then 1 kg, by default we use |
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"Expedited Parcel", tracking number notification is included, and we include |
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insurance in the cost of the shipping, unless you tell us not to. For any |
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insurance shortfall, we only cover 1/2 the cost, and you have to cover the |
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other 1/2. If in doubt, (as the above is fairly complex to understand), |
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specify "FULL INSURANCE" in the comment section of your order. In that case, |
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we will find an fully insured way to ship to you.<p> |
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<b>Registration:</b> Outside USA/Canada we typically "register" parcels for |
To the USA, Canada and certain other countries, Express Post service (which |
weights between 0.2 kg and 2.0 kg. Cost of registration is $7-10 US in |
becomes Priority Post once in the USA) is always available. If we use |
addition to the "small packet air" postage. Registration includes $40 US of |
Express Post, or sometimes translate that into US Priority Post, where we |
insurance. You may specify not to register if you wish to accept the risk, |
can ship from within the USA (no T-shirts), then we will always insure for |
or you may specify "please do register" if you are not certain if your |
full value, and include the cost in the original postage, unless you tell us |
package will registered (since otherwise we will use our own judgment, |
not to. In the latter case we only cover 1/2 of any loss. There is special |
sometimes depending on experience with various countries). |
option for Express Post for USA or Canadian orders on the web order form. |
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You only have to select it. We may soon turn that on for other countries, |
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but will use our best shipping judgement (registered parcel with insurence) |
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where Express Post is not available. Countries with unreliable postal |
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administration, Mexico, for example, are not eligible for insurance for any |
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class of parcel except "small packet". We may break the order into chunks |
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of less than 2 kg if necessary to get insurance. Small packets to non-USA |
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countries may be up to 2 kg.<p> |
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<p>In USA/Canada less than 1% of items go missing in the mail; however, who |
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knows, it might be yours. But if you absolutely can't stand risk, do by all |
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means specify FULL INSURANCE in the comments area of the order form on the |
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web. We will then make sure we ship in an fully insured way, and add any |
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necessary costs to the postage. |
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<p>In USA/Canada less than 1% of items go missing in the mail; it might be |
<p>Packages will generally be mailed either from Milk River, Alberta, |
yours, yet paying for postal insurance is an expensive gamble. But if you |
Canada, or Sweet Grass, Montana. Typical FIRST CLASS airmail postage rates |
absolutely can't stand risk, do insure by all means. In North America |
for quantity 1 are roughly: <p> |
consider specifying <a href="http://www.canadapost.ca">Express Mail</a> |
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(trackable), or a courier like <a href="http://www.fedex.com">FEDEX</a> |
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(also trackable). |
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<p>Note that postage cost for a CD set is expected to be around $3 - |
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$5 USD. Packages will generally be mailed from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. |
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(Some US orders are mailed from a US depot -- but unlikely at initial |
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release time). Typical airmail postage rates for quantity 1 are roughly: |
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<li>Canada $3 CDN. Expect 7 days. |
<li>Canada $3 CDN. Expect 7 days. |
<li>USA $3 USD ($4 CDN). Expect 7 - 10 days. |
<li>USA $3 USD ($4 CDN). Expect 7 days. |
<li>World $4 USD ($5 CDN). Expect two weeks. |
<li>World $4 USD ($5 CDN). Expect two weeks. |
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Note: Transit time estimates do not take into account the fact that |
Note: Transit time estimates do not take into account the fact that |
shipping backlogs during the first month after a new release may require an |
shipping backlogs during the first month after a new release may require an |
extra one to two weeks before the package hits the mail. During the rest |
extra one to four weeks before the package hits the mail. During the rest |
of the year turn-around is same day or a couple of days at most.<p> |
of the year turn-around is same day or a couple of days at most.<p> |
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<b>EXPRESS POST</b> A new service, previously not available, but for Canada |
Typical cost for Express Post (becomes Priority Post in the USA) for a |
and USA only, is Express Post, with 3-6 day delivery, up to $50 insurance |
single CD set:<p> |
included, and trackability from <a href="http://www.canadapost.ca">Canadapost</a> |
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This is now an new option on the web order form. |
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<p> For a single CD set: |
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<li> Canada $7. Expect 2 - 3 days. |
<li> Canada $7 CDN. Expect 2 - 3 days. |
<li> USA $10. Expect 4 - 6 days. |
<li> USA $10 USD. Expect 4 - 6 days. |
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<li> World $35 CDN ($30 USD) Expect 5-8 days. Not available to every |
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country. |
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If you want your CD to come very quickly, you can choose a courier like |
If you want your CD to come very quickly, you can choose a courier or |
Fedex or UPS overnight. Note, that for <i>single</i> CDs delivered by |
similar service provided from the post office. |
courier it is cheaper to get overnight delivery than to get 2 or 3 day |
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delivery by the same couriers! If you choose <b>overnight</b> courier |
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service, you very likely <b>do NOT</b> want to use the Internet web ordering |
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<li> For Canada we recommend Purolator. |
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<li> For the USA we recommend US postal EXPRESS service, or secondly |
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UPS. |
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<li> For international we recommend DHL. FEDEX is no longer available |
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except for non T-shirt orders, and never to Canada, as they do not serve |
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Milk River, Alberta, our Canadian shipping location. We can access FEDEX |
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for non T-shirt orders, shipping from Sweet Grass, Montana, USA, but dont |
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recommend it. |
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If you want courier service or equivalent 1 to 2 day service from the post |
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office, you very likely <b>do NOT</b> want to use the Internet web ordering |
system, but rather want to order your package by phoning the Computer Shop |
system, but rather want to order your package by phoning the Computer Shop |
phone number (403 243-4356). By phoning before 3PM Mountain Time, you can |
phone number (cell: 1 403 243-4356, office (phone/fax): 1 403 647-2200, |
usually have it by early the next morning! |
messages: use cell phone number). By phoning before 12 noon Mountain Time, |
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you can often have it by early the next morning!<p> |
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<p>If you are ordering the CD plus other items, consider having only the CD |
If you are ordering the CD plus other items, consider having only the CD |
sent by overnight and other things by regular airmail or express post. CDs |
sent by courier and other things by regular airmail or express post. CDs |
are relatively inexpensive to send by courier (we class them as documents), |
are relatively inexpensive to send by courier (we class them as documents), |
whereas T-shirts, and especially posters, are quite expensive that way. |
whereas T-shirts, and especially posters, are quite expensive that way. |
Sometimes, particularly for posters, we will guess that this is what you |
Sometimes, particularly for posters, we will guess that this is what you |
want to do. Say in the comments if you really want all items sent by |
want to do. Say in the comments if you really want all items, even posters, |
courier, even posters. |
sent by courier. |
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<p>For Canada, and USA only, you may specify "use credit card" in the box |
<p>For Canada, and USA only, you may specify "use credit card" in the box |
where it says <i>courier account number</i>. In that case we will pass on |
where it says <i>courier account number</i>. In that case we will pass on |
your credit card number to the courier company. You will get a separate |
your credit card number to the courier company. You will get a separate |
debit from them (for the shipping portion only). But we prefer if you do |
debit from them (for the shipping portion only). But we prefer if you do |
have a courier account number already. If requesting shipping to a company |
have a courier account number already. If requesting shipping to a company |
address, ask if they have one that can be used (or phone FEDEX or UPS and |
address, ask if they have one that can be used (or phone DHL or UPS, for |
ask what it is).<p> |
example, and ask what it is).<p> |
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<p>Typical Fedex or UPS priority shipping rates for quantity 1 are roughly: |
<p>UPS, Purolator, DHL, or Postal courier shipping rates for quantity 1 |
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are roughly: <p> |
<li>Canada $13.00 CDN. Overnight if phoned in before 3PM MST. |
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<li>USA $19 USD ($28 CDN). Overnight (to most cities) if phoned in before 3PM MST. |
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<li>World $36 USD ($55.00 CDN) -- 2 to 4 day service. Must have courier account #. If necessary, |
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apply for one or, otherwise, use insured AIR MAIL post for the closest |
<li>Canada $20.00 CDN. Sometimes overnight if phoned in before 2PM MST. |
equivalent. |
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<li>USA $20 USD -- Overnight (to some cities) if phoned in before 12 noon |
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MST. UPS is usually second day service unless we happen to make the border |
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run very early. |
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<li>World $45 USD ($55.00 CDN) -- 2 to 4 day service. Must have courier |
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account #. If necessary, apply for one or, otherwise, use insured AIR MAIL |
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post for the closest equivalent. Express post, trackable and insured, is |
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available for some countries, a bit less expensive and almost as good. |
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<b>Partial shipments:</b> Sometimes a T-shirt of a certain size might not be |
<b>Partial shipments:</b> Sometimes a T-shirt of a certain size might not be |
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stocks them too. <a href="mailto:sales_burnaby@fronet.com">(Burnaby Sales)</a> |
stocks them too. <a href="mailto:sales_burnaby@fronet.com">(Burnaby Sales)</a> |
<li>or contact <a href="mailto:hugh@openbsd.org">Hugh Graham</a>. |
<li>or contact <a href="mailto:hugh@openbsd.org">Hugh Graham</a>. |
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In Calgary, Alberta |
In Calgary, Alberta:<br> |
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<a href="http://www.nexuscomputerbooks.com">Nexus Computer Books</a>, |
<li><a href="http://www.nexuscomputerbooks.com">Nexus Computer Books</a>, 311 - 17 AV SW, |
311 - 17 AV SW, |
Phone: 1 (403) 229-2520 <a href="mailto:contact@nexuscomputerbooks.com">Sales Email</a> |
Phone: 1 (403) 229-2520 |
<li><a href="http://computershop.calgary.ab.ca">Computer Shop of Calgary</a> |
<a href="mailto:contact@nexuscomputerbooks.com">Sales Email</a><p> |
Phone: 1 (403) 243-4356 <a href="mailto:cshop@canuck.com">Email</a> |
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<li>or contact <a href="mailto:deraadt@openbsd.org">Theo de Raadt</a><br> |
or contact <a href="mailto:deraadt@openbsd.org">Theo de Raadt</a><p> |
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In Milk River, Alberta:<br> |
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<a href="http://computershop.calgary.ab.ca">Computer Shop of Calgary</a>, |
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Box 267, Milk River T0K 1M0, |
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or 104 - 1st Avenue NW, |
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Cell phone (Calgary number): 1 (403) 243-4356, |
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office (phone/FAX) 1 403 647-2200, |
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messages: use Calgary cell phone number, |
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or <a href="mailto:austin@canuck.com">email us</a>.<p> |
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In Edmonton, Alberta |
In Edmonton, Alberta |
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