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Most OpenBSD mailing lists strip messages of MIME content before sending |
Most OpenBSD mailing lists strip messages of MIME content before sending |
them out to the rest of the list. |
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If you don't use plain text, your messages will be reformatted. |
cannot be reformatted, summarily rejected. |
If they cannot be reformatted, they will be summarily rejected. |
The only mailing lists that allow file attachments are the <b>bugs</b>, |
The only mailing lists that allow file attachments are the <b>bugs</b>, |
<b>ports</b> and <b>tech</b> lists. |
<b>ports</b> and <b>tech</b> lists. |
They will be removed from messages on the others. |
They will be removed from messages on the others. |
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<dt><b>Do your homework before you post</b> |
<dt><b>Do your homework before you post</b> |
<dd>If you have an installation question, make sure that you have read |
<dd>If you have an installation question, make sure that you have read |
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installation directories, the <a href="faq/index.html">FAQ</a> and the |
installation directories, the <a href="faq/index.html">FAQ</a> and the |
relevant man pages (start with |
relevant man pages (start with |
<a href= "https://man.openbsd.org/afterboot">afterboot(8)</a>). |
<a href= "https://man.openbsd.org/afterboot">afterboot(8)</a>). |
Also check the mailing list <a href="#Archives">archives</a>. |
Also check the mailing list archives. |
We want to help, but we wouldn't want to deprive you of a valuable |
We want to help, but we wouldn't want to deprive you of a valuable |
learning experience, and no one wants to see the same question on the |
learning experience, and no one wants to see the same question on the |
lists for the fifth time in a month. |
lists for the fifth time in a month. |
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<dt><b>Include a useful Subject line</b> |
<dt><b>Include a useful Subject line</b> |
<dd>Messages with an empty Subject will get bounced to the list manager and |
<dd>Messages with an empty Subject will get bounced to the list manager and |
will take longer to show up. |
will take longer to show up. |
Including a relevant Subject in the message |
Including a relevant Subject in the message will ensure that more people |
will ensure that more people actually read what you've written. |
actually read what you've written. |
Also, avoid Subject lines with excessive capitalization. |
Also, avoid Subject lines with excessive capitalization. |
"Help!" or "I can't get it to work!" are not useful subject lines. |
"Help!" or "I can't get it to work!" are not useful subject lines. |
Do not change the subject line while on the same topic. |
Do not change the subject line while on the same topic. |
YOU may know what it is regarding, the rest of us who get several hundred |
YOU may know what it is regarding, the rest of us who get several hundred |
messages a day will have no idea. |
messages a day will have no idea. |
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<dt><b>Trim your signature</b> |
<dt><b>Trim your signature</b> |
<dd>Keep the signature lines at the bottom of your mail to a reasonable |
<dd>Keep the signature lines at the bottom of your mail to a reasonable length. |
length. |
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PGP signatures and those automatic address cards are merely annoying and |
PGP signatures and those automatic address cards are merely annoying and |
are stripped out. |
are stripped out. |
Legal disclaimers and advisories are also very annoying, and inappropriate |
Legal disclaimers and advisories are also very annoying, and inappropriate |
for public mailing lists. |
for public mailing lists. |
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<dt><b>Stay on topic</b> |
<dt><b>Stay on topic</b> |
<dd>Please keep the subject of the post relevant to users of OpenBSD. |
<dd>Please keep the subject of the post relevant to users of OpenBSD. |
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<dt><b>Include important information</b> |
<dt><b>Include important information</b> |
<dd>Don't waste everyone's time with a hopelessly incomplete question. |
<dd>Don't waste everyone's time with a hopelessly incomplete question. |
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All questions should include at least the <a href="faq/faq5.html#Flavors"> |
All questions should include at least the <a href="faq/faq5.html#Flavors"> |
version</a> of OpenBSD. |
version</a> of OpenBSD. |
Any hardware-related questions should mention the platform (i386, amd64, |
Any hardware-related questions should mention the platform (i386, amd64, |
etc.) and provide a full |
etc.) and provide a full <a href="https://man.openbsd.org/dmesg">dmesg(8)</a>. |
<a href="https://man.openbsd.org/dmesg">dmesg(8)</a>. |
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Hardware model numbers, unfortunately, don't indicate much about the |
Hardware model numbers, unfortunately, don't indicate much about the |
actual content of a particular machine or accessory, and are useless to |
actual content of a particular machine or accessory, and are useless to |
anyone who doesn't have that exact machine sitting where they can easily |
anyone who doesn't have that exact machine sitting where they can easily |
recognize it. |
recognize it. |
The dmesg(8) output tells us exactly what is IN your machine, not what |
The dmesg output tells us exactly what is IN your machine, not what |
stickers are on the outside. |
stickers are on the outside. |
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<dt><b>Respect differences in opinion and philosophy</b> |
<dt><b>Respect differences in opinion and philosophy</b> |
<dd>Intelligent people may look at the same set of facts and come to very |
<dd>Intelligent people may look at the same set of facts and come to very |
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<h2 id="spam">Spam</h2> |
<h2 id="spam">Spam</h2> |
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The OpenBSD lists use <a href="https://man.openbsd.org/spamd">spamd(8)</a> |
The OpenBSD lists use <a href="https://man.openbsd.org/spamd">spamd(8)</a> |
and <a href="http://www.spamassassin.org">SpamAssassin</a> to keep down the |
and <a href="https://spamassassin.apache.org">SpamAssassin</a> to keep down the |
spam volume, but things do sneak through from time to time -- deal with it. |
spam volume, but things do sneak through from time to time -- deal with it. |
In addition, the list server also has regex-based rules to reject emails |
In addition, the list server also has regex-based rules to reject emails |
based on some common spam and virus telltales. |
based on some common spam and virus telltales. |
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<h2 id="Lists">General interest lists</h2> |
<h2 id="Lists">General interest lists</h2> |
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These lists are of interest to most users of OpenBSD. |
These lists are of interest to most users of OpenBSD. |
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<dt><b>announce@openbsd.org</b> |
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<dd>Announcements and security advisories. |
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(<a href="https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-announce">Archive</a>) |
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<dt><b>misc</b> |
<dt><b>misc@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd>User questions and answers, general questions. |
<dd>User questions and answers, general questions. |
This is the most active list. |
This is the most active list. |
Please, <a href="faq/index.html">read the FAQ</a> and the installation |
Please read <a href="faq/index.html">the FAQ</a> and the installation |
documents, and see <a href="report.html">how to report a problem</a> |
documents, and see <a href="report.html">how to report a problem</a> |
before posting. |
before posting. |
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(<a href="https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc">Archive</a>) |
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<dt><b>advocacy</b> |
<dt><b>advocacy@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd>Promoting the use of OpenBSD. |
<dd>Promoting the use of OpenBSD. |
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(<a href="https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-advocacy">Archive</a>) |
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<dt><b>announce</b> |
<dt><b>ports@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd>Announcements and security advisories. |
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<dt><b>ports</b> |
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<dd>Discussions about using and contributing to the ports tree. |
<dd>Discussions about using and contributing to the ports tree. |
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(<a href="https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports">Archive</a>) |
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<dt><b>misc@opensmtpd.org</b> |
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<dd>General discussions, issues and ideas about native and portable OpenSMTPD. |
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Patches for the portable bits should be pull requests on |
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<a href="https://github.com/OpenSMTPD/OpenSMTPD">Github</a>. |
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(<a href="https://www.mail-archive.com/misc@opensmtpd.org">Archive</a>) |
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<dt><b>users@openbgpd.org</b> |
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<dd>General discussions, issues and ideas about native and portable OpenBGPD. |
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Patches for the portable bits should be pull requests on |
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<a href="https://github.com/openbgpd-portable/openbgpd-portable">Github</a>. |
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<h3>Developer lists</h3> |
<h3>Developer lists</h3> |
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These lists are for technical discussions of aspects of OpenBSD. |
These lists are for technical discussions of aspects of OpenBSD. |
They are NOT for beginning or average users, they are not for problem |
They are NOT for beginners or average users, they are not for problem |
reporting (unless you are including a good fix) and they are not for |
reporting (unless you are including a good fix) and they are not for |
installation problems. |
installation problems. |
If you have any question about if a message should be posted to any of |
If you have any question about if a message should be posted to any of |
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Use <b>misc</b> instead. |
Use <b>misc</b> instead. |
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<dt><b>bugs</b> |
<dt><b>bugs@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd><a href="report.html">Bug reports</a> as sent in via |
<dd>Bug reports as sent in via |
<a href="https://man.openbsd.org/sendbug">sendbug(1)</a> |
<a href="https://man.openbsd.org/sendbug">sendbug(1)</a> and follow-up discussion. |
and follow-up discussions. |
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(<a href="https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs">Archive</a>) |
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<dt><b>tech</b> |
<dt><b>tech@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd>Discussion of technical topics for OpenBSD developers and advanced |
<dd>Discussion of technical topics for OpenBSD developers and advanced users. |
users. |
This is <b>not</b> a "tech support" forum - do not use it as such. |
This is <b>not</b> a "tech support" forum; do not use it as such. |
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OpenBSD developers will often make patches to implement new features |
OpenBSD developers will often make patches to implement new features |
and other important changes available for public testing through this |
and other important changes available for public testing through this list. |
list. |
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(<a href="https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech">Archive</a>) |
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<dt><b>libressl</b> |
<dt><b>libressl@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd>Technical discussion about native and portable LibreSSL. |
<dd>Technical discussion about native and portable LibreSSL. |
Users of LibreSSL on any operating system are welcome to participate. |
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Patches for the native LibreSSL should be sent to this list and use |
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OpenBSD's CVS tree or a git mirror of it. |
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Patches for the portable bits should be pull requests on |
Patches for the portable bits should be pull requests on |
<a href="https://github.com/libressl-portable">github</a>. |
<a href="https://github.com/libressl-portable/portable">Github</a>. |
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(<a href="https://marc.info/?l=libressl">Archive</a>) |
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<h3>Reporting security issues</h3> |
<h3>Reporting security issues</h3> |
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These private addresses are for reporting vulnerabilities to the OpenBSD team. |
These private addresses are for reporting vulnerabilities to the OpenBSD team. |
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<dt><b>libressl-security@openbsd.org</b> |
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<dd>Report vulnerabilities related to LibreSSL. |
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<dt><b>openssh@openssh.com</b> |
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<dd>Report vulnerabilities related to OpenSSH. |
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<dt><b>security@openbsd.org</b> |
<dt><b>security@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd>Report vulnerabilities related to OpenBSD. |
<dd>Report vulnerabilities related to OpenBSD. |
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<dt><b>openssh@openssh.com</b> |
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<dd>Report vulnerabilities related to OpenSSH. |
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<dt><b>libressl-security@openbsd.org</b> |
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<dd>Report vulnerabilities related to LibreSSL. |
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<dt><b>security@opensmtpd.org</b> |
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<dd>Report vulnerabilities related to OpenSMTPD. |
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<h3>Platform-specific lists</h3> |
<h3>Platform-specific lists</h3> |
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platforms. |
platforms. |
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<dt><b>alpha</b> |
<dt><b>alpha@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd>OpenBSD/alpha port |
<dd>OpenBSD/alpha port. |
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(<a href="https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-alpha">Archive</a>) |
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<dt><b>arm</b> |
<dt><b>arm@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd>OpenBSD/armv7 port and other ARM porting efforts |
<dd>OpenBSD/armv7 and OpenBSD/arm64 ports. |
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(<a href="https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-arm">Archive</a>) |
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<dt><b>hppa</b> |
<dt><b>hppa@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd>OpenBSD/hppa port |
<dd>OpenBSD/hppa port. |
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(<a href="https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-hppa">Archive</a>) |
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<dt><b>m88k</b> |
<dt><b>m88k@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd>OpenBSD/luna88k port |
<dd>OpenBSD/luna88k port. |
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(<a href="https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-m88k">Archive</a>) |
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<dt><b>ppc</b> |
<dt><b>ppc@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd>OpenBSD/macppc and other PowerPC porting efforts |
<dd>OpenBSD/macppc and other PowerPC porting efforts. |
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(<a href="https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ppc">Archive</a>) |
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<dt><b>sgi</b> |
<dt><b>sgi@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd>OpenBSD/sgi port |
<dd>OpenBSD/sgi port. |
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(<a href="https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-sgi">Archive</a>) |
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<dt><b>sparc</b> |
<dt><b>sparc@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd>OpenBSD/sparc64 port |
<dd>OpenBSD/sparc64 port. |
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(<a href="https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-sparc">Archive</a>) |
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<h3>CVS changes mailing lists</h3> |
<h2>CVS changes mailing lists</h2> |
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Every time a developer commits a change to the OpenBSD CVS tree, a message |
Every time a developer commits a change to the OpenBSD CVS tree, a message |
is mailed out to all the subscribers of these lists, containing the commit |
is mailed out to all the subscribers of these lists, containing the commit |
comments. |
comments. |
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<dl> |
<dt><b>source-changes</b> |
<dt><b>source-changes@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd>Automated mail of CVS source tree changes in the src, xenocara and www |
<dd>Automated mail of CVS source tree changes in the src, xenocara and www |
repositories. |
repositories. |
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(<a href="https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs">Archive</a>) |
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<dt><b>ports-changes</b> |
<dt><b>ports-changes@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd>Automated mail of CVS source tree changes in the ports repository. |
<dd>Automated mail of CVS source tree changes in the ports repository. |
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(<a href="https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports-cvs">Archive</a>) |
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</dl> |
</dl> |
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<h2 id="Mirrors">Mirror-related lists</h2> |
<h2 id="Mirrors">Mirror-related lists</h2> |
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Announcements and discussion relating to mirrors of OpenBSD. |
Announcements and discussion relating to <a href="ftp.html">mirrors</a> |
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of OpenBSD. |
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<dt><b>mirrors-announce</b> |
<dt><b>mirrors-announce@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd>This is a moderated list used solely for important announcements |
<dd>This is a moderated list used solely for important announcements |
to operators of OpenBSD mirrors. |
to operators of OpenBSD mirrors. |
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<dt><b>mirrors-discuss</b> |
<dt><b>mirrors-discuss@openbsd.org</b> |
<dd>Discussion relating to OpenBSD mirrors. |
<dd>Discussion relating to OpenBSD mirrors. |
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<h2 id="Majordomo">Managing list membership via Majordomo</h2> |
<h2 id="Majordomo">Managing list membership via Majordomo</h2> |
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If you want to be sent a complete list with all mailing lists available |
If you want to be sent a complete list with all mailing lists available |
at openbsd.org, send the command <tt>lists</tt> in the body of |
at openbsd.org, send the command <tt>lists</tt> in the body of |
a message to |
a message to |
<a href="mailto:majordomo@OpenBSD.org">majordomo@OpenBSD.org</a>. |
<a href="mailto:majordomo@openbsd.org">majordomo@openbsd.org</a>. |
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To subscribe to a given list, send mail to |
To subscribe to a given list, send mail to |
<a href="mailto:majordomo@OpenBSD.org">majordomo@OpenBSD.org</a> |
<a href="mailto:majordomo@openbsd.org">majordomo@openbsd.org</a> |
with a message body of "subscribe <tt>mailing-list-name</tt>" (where |
with a message body of "subscribe <tt>mailing-list-name</tt>" (where |
<tt>mailing-list-name</tt> is the name of your preferred list). |
<tt>mailing-list-name</tt> is the name of your preferred list). |
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For further assistance, send a message body of "help" to |
For further assistance, send a message body of "help" to |
<a href="mailto:majordomo@OpenBSD.org">majordomo@OpenBSD.org</a> |
<a href="mailto:majordomo@openbsd.org">majordomo@openbsd.org</a> |
and you will receive a reply outlining all your options. |
and you will receive a reply outlining all your options. |
Your domain <b>must</b> resolve properly or the mail will not go through! |
Your domain <b>must</b> resolve properly or the mail will not go through! |
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<a href="mailto:majordomo@openbsd.org">Majordomo</a>. |
<a href="mailto:majordomo@openbsd.org">Majordomo</a>. |
You can change your email address without having to unsubscribe and |
You can change your email address without having to unsubscribe and |
resubscribe, temporarily disable your message delivery for a few days |
resubscribe, temporarily disable your message delivery for a few days |
while you go on vacation and much more. |
while you go on vacation, and much more. |
The user is invited to spend some time reading through the options, available |
The user is invited to spend some time reading through the options, available |
by sending <a href="mailto:majordomo@openbsd.org">Majordomo</a> a message |
by sending <a href="mailto:majordomo@openbsd.org">Majordomo</a> a message |
containing "help" as the body text, or through the "Help" tab of the |
containing "help" as the body text, or through the "Help" tab of the |
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This is handy for those who don't like the typically high volume of these lists. |
This is handy for those who don't like the typically high volume of these lists. |
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The insomniac at <a href="http://www.benzedrine.ch/mailinglist.html"> |
The insomniac at <a href="https://www.benzedrine.ch/mailinglist.html"> |
benzedrine.ch</a> maintains the <b>pf</b> list for people using the |
benzedrine.ch</a> maintains the <b>pf</b> list for people using the |
OpenBSD packet filter. |
OpenBSD packet filter. |
To subscribe, send an email with the message body of "subscribe" to |
To subscribe, send an email with the message body of "subscribe" to |
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Japanese: |
Japanese: |
<b>openbsd-japan@googlegroups.com</b> |
<b>openbsd-japan@googlegroups.com</b> |
<br>To subscribe, visit the URL at: |
<br>To subscribe, visit the URL at: |
<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/openbsd-japan"> |
<a href="https://groups.google.com/group/openbsd-japan"> |
http://groups.google.com/group/openbsd-japan</a> |
https://groups.google.com/group/openbsd-japan</a> |
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Spanish: |
Spanish: |
<b>OpenBSD-Mexico@googlegroups.com</b> |
<b>OpenBSD-Mexico@googlegroups.com</b> |
<br>To subscribe, visit the URL at: |
<br>To subscribe, visit the URL at: |
<a href="http://groups.google.com.mx/group/OpenBSD-Mexico"> |
<a href="https://groups.google.com/group/OpenBSD-Mexico"> |
http://groups.google.com.mx/group/OpenBSD-Mexico</a> |
https://groups.google.com/group/OpenBSD-Mexico</a> |
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Ukrainian: |
Ukrainian: |
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<br>To subscribe, send an empty message to |
<br>To subscribe, send an empty message to |
<a href="mailto:openbsd+subscribe@uaoug.org.ua"> |
<a href="mailto:openbsd+subscribe@uaoug.org.ua"> |
openbsd+subscribe@uaoug.org.ua</a> |
openbsd+subscribe@uaoug.org.ua</a> |
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<h2 id="Archives">Mailing list archives</h2> |
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These mailing list archives are not managed by the OpenBSD project. |
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<li>HTTP: <a href="https://marc.info">MARC</a> |
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<li>NNTP: <a href="nntp://news.gmane.org/">Gmane</a> |
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