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 <h2><font color="#e00000">Mailing Lists</font></h2>  <h1><font color="#e00000">Mailing Lists</font></h1>
 <hr>  <hr>
   
 Mailing lists are an important means of communication among users and developers  Mailing lists are an important means of communication among users and
 of OpenBSD. With the exception of <i>announce</i>, the lists are not moderated.  developers of OpenBSD. With the exceptions of <b>announce</b> and
 We deliberately restrict the number of different mailing lists. This helps reduce the  <b>security-anounce</b>, the lists are not moderated.  We deliberately
 amount of cross-posting and makes sure that the information gets distributed to a  restrict the number of different mailing lists.
 wide audience.  This helps reduce the amount of cross-posting and makes sure that the
   information gets distributed to a wide audience.
   
 <p>  <p>
 <h3><font color="#e00000">Netiquette</font></h3>  <a name="Netiquette"></a>
   <h2><font color="#e00000">Netiquette</font></h2>
 <p>  <p>
 Be considerate of other subscribers on the mailing lists.  Be considerate of other subscribers on the mailing lists.
 <dl>  <dl>
 <dt><u>Plain text, 72 characters per line</u>  <dt><b>Plain text, 72 characters per line</b>
 <dd>Many subscribers read their mail on text-based mailers (mail(1), emacs)  <dd>Many subscribers and developers read their mail on text-based mailers
   (mail(1), emacs, Mutt)
 and they find HTML-formatted messages, or lines that stretch beyond 72  and they find HTML-formatted messages, or lines that stretch beyond 72
 characters often unreadable.  characters often unreadable.
 Most OpenBSD mailing lists strip messages of MIME content before  Most OpenBSD mailing lists strip messages of MIME content before
 sending them out to the rest of the list.  sending them out to the rest of the list.
 If you don't use plain text your messages will be reformatted or,  If you don't use plain text your messages will be reformatted or,
 if they cannot be reformatted, summarily rejected.  if they cannot be reformatted, summarily rejected.
 The only mailing list that allows attachments is the <em>ports</em> list,  The only mailing list that allows attachments is the <b>ports</b> list,
 they will be removed from messages on the other mailing lists.  they will be removed from messages on the other mailing lists.
 <dt><u>Do your homework before you post</u>  
   <dt><b>Do your homework before you post</b>
 <dd>If you have an installation question, make sure that you have read the relevant  <dd>If you have an installation question, make sure that you have read the relevant
 documents such as the INSTALL.* text files in the FTP installation directories, the  documents such as the INSTALL.* text files in the FTP installation directories, the
 <a href="faq/index.html">FAQ</a> and the relevant man pages (start with  <a href="faq/index.html">FAQ</a> and the relevant man pages (start with
 <a href= "http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=afterboot&amp;sektion=8">afterboot(8)</a>). Make sure you include relevant  <a href= "http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=afterboot&amp;sektion=8">afterboot(8)</a>),
 details (version, hardware,  and check the mailing list <a href="#Archives">archives</a>.
 <a href= "http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=dmesg&amp;sektion=8">dmesg(8)</a>) that will help in troubleshooting. We want to  We want to help, but we wouldn't want to deprive you of a valuable
 help, but we wouldn't want to deprive you of a valuable learning experience.  learning experience, and no one wants to see the same question on the
 <dt><u>Include a useful Subject line</u>  lists for the fifth time in a month.
   
   <dt><b>Include a useful Subject line</b>
 <dd>Messages with an empty Subject will get bounced to the list manager and  <dd>Messages with an empty Subject will get bounced to the list manager and
 so they will take longer to show up.  Including a relevant Subject in the message  so they will take longer to show up.  Including a relevant Subject in the message
 will ensure that more people actually read what you've written.  will ensure that more people actually read what you've written.
 Also, avoid Subject lines with excessive capitalization.  Also, avoid Subject lines with excessive capitalization.
 <dt><u>Trim your signature</u>  "Help!" or "I can't get it to work!" are not a useful subject lines.
 <dd>Keep the signature lines at the bottom of your mail to a reasonable length. Posts  Do not change the subject line while on the same topic.  YOU may know
 are rarely critical enough to warrant a PGP signature, and those automatic address  what it is regarding, the rest of us who get several hundred messages a
 cards are merely annoying.  day will have no idea.
 <dt><u>Stay on topic</u>  
   <dt><b>Trim your signature</b>
   <dd>Keep the signature lines at the bottom of your mail to a reasonable
   length.  PGP signatures, and those automatic address cards are merely
   annoying and are stripped out.  Legal disclaimers and advisories are
   very annoying, and inappropriate to public mailing lists.
   
   <dt><b>Stay on topic</b>
 <dd>Please keep the subject of the post relevant to users of OpenBSD.  <dd>Please keep the subject of the post relevant to users of OpenBSD.
   
   <dt><b>Include important information</b>
   <dd>Don't waste everyone's time with a hopelessly incomplete question.
   No one other than you has the information needed to resolve your
   problem, it is better to provide more information than needed than one
   detail too little.  Any question should include at least the
   <a href="faq/faq5.html#Flavors">version</a> of OpenBSD (i.e.,
   "3.2-stable", "3.3-current as of July 20, 2003").  Any hardware related
   questions should also include mentioning the platform (i.e., sparc,
   alpha, etc.), and provide a full
   <a href="http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=dmesg&amp;sektion=8">dmesg(8)</a>).
   Hardware model numbers, unfortunately, don't indicate much about the
   actual content of a particular machine or accessory, and are useless to
   anyone who doesn't have that exact machine sitting where they can easily
   recognize it.  The dmesg(8) tells us exactly what is IN your machine,
   not what stickers are on the outside.
   
   <dt><b>Respect differences in opinion and philosophy</b>
   <dd>Intelligent people may look at the same set of facts and come to
   very different conclusions.  Repeating the same points that didn't
   convince someone previously rarely changes their mind and irritates all
   the other readers.
   
   <dt><b>Do not cross-post or repeat post</b>
   <dd>Posting the same message to multiple lists and/or multiple times
   does not increase the likelihood of getting a useful response, but is
   likely to irritate the people you want to help you.  If you didn't get a
   satisfactory response the first time you posted to an appropriate list,
   it is usually because you provided insufficient or unclear information.
   Don't simply repost the same message.
   
 </dl>  </dl>
   
 <p>  <p>
 <h3><font color="#e00000">Spam</font></h3>  <a name="spam"></a>
   <h2><font color="#e00000">Spam</font></h2>
 <p>  <p>
 Spam is always forbidden but sometimes things slip through the  The OpenBSD mailing lists use
 cracks.  If you get spam through one of the OpenBSD mailing lists,  <a href="http://www.spamassassin.org">SpamAssassin</a> to keep down the
   spam volume but something things sneak through.
   In addition, the list server also has regex-based rules to reject
   based on some common spam telltales.
   If you get spam through one of the OpenBSD mailing lists,
 you might want to submit it to <a href="http://spamcop.net">spamcop</a>.  you might want to submit it to <a href="http://spamcop.net">spamcop</a>.
 In general, you don't have to send a copy to the list owner--chances  In general, you don't have to send a copy to the list owner--chances
 are he's already seen it.  Please note that complaining about  are he's already seen it.  Please note that complaining about
   and commenting upon
 spam on the list proper is counter-productive as it generates more  spam on the list proper is counter-productive as it generates more
 traffic than the spam itself...  traffic than the spam itself.
 <br>  
 The OpenBSD mailing lists will deny mail from any host on the  
 <a href="http://www.mail-abuse.org/rbl/">MAPS RBL</a>,  
 <a href="http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul/">MAPS Dialup</a> or  
 <a href="http://www.mail-abuse.org/rss/">MAPS RSS</a> blacklists.  
 In addition, the list server also has regex-based rules to reject  
 based on some common spam telltales.  
   
 <h3><font color="#e00000">The Mailing Lists</font></h3>  
 <p>  <a name="Lists"></a>
 To subscribe to a given list, send mail to  <h2><font color="#e00000">The Mailing Lists</font></h2>
 <a href="mailto:majordomo@OpenBSD.org">majordomo@OpenBSD.org</a>  
 with a message body of &quot;<strong>subscribe mailing-list-name</strong>&quot;.  <h3>General Interest Lists</h3>
   These lists are of interest to most users of OpenBSD.
 <dl>  <dl>
 <dt><strong>announce</strong>  
 <dd>Important announcements.  This low volume list  <dt><b>misc</b>
 is excellent for people who just want occasional news about the project.  <dd>User questions and answers, general questions. This is the most
 <dt><strong>security-announce</strong>  active list.  Please, <a href="faq/index.html">read the FAQ</a> and the
   installation documents, and see <a href="report.html">How to report a
   Problem</a> before posting.
   
   <dt><b>advocacy</b>
   <dd>Promoting the use of OpenBSD. Non-technical discussions in
   <i>misc</i> often get shunted here.
   
   <dt><b>announce</b>
   <dd>Important announcements.  This low volume list is excellent for
   people who just want occasional news about the project.
   
   <dt><b>security-announce</b>
 <dd>Security announcements.  This low volume list receives OpenBSD  <dd>Security announcements.  This low volume list receives OpenBSD
 security advisories and pointers to security patches as they become  security advisories and pointers to security patches as they become
 available.  available.
 <dt><strong>misc</strong>  
 <dd>User questions and answers, general questions. This is the most active list.  <dt><b>ports</b>
 Please, <a href="faq/index.html">read the FAQ</a> and the installation documents  
 before you post.  
 <dt><strong>tech</strong>  
 <dd>Technical topics for OpenBSD developers and advanced users.  
 <strong>Please</strong>, direct 'new user' and installation-related questions  
 to <em>misc</em>. <strong>Please, do not</strong> cross-post to both  
 <em>misc</em> and <em>tech</em>.  
 <dt><strong>bugs</strong>  
 <dd><a href="report.html">Bug reports</a> as sent in via  
 <a href="http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=sendbug&amp;sektion=1">sendbug(1)</a> and follow-up discussions.  
 <dt><strong>source-changes</strong>  
 <dd>Automated mailout of CVS source tree changes.  
 <dt><strong>ports</strong>  
 <dd>Discussions about using and contributing to the 'ports' source tree.  <dd>Discussions about using and contributing to the 'ports' source tree.
 <dt><strong>ports-changes</strong>  
 <dd>Automated mailout of ports-specific CVS source tree changes.  <dt><b>www</b>
 <dt><strong>ipv6</strong>  <dd>Discussion of the OpenBSD Website.</dd>
 <dd>Discussions about OpenBSD IP version 6.  
 <dt><strong>advocacy</strong>  
 <dd>Promoting the use of OpenBSD. Non-technical discussions in  
 <em>misc</em> often get shunted here.  
 <dt><strong>smp</strong>  
 <dd>Discussion of Symmetric Multi-Processing design and implementation  
 on OpenBSD.  
 </dl>  </dl>
   
   <h3>Developer's Lists</h3>
   These lists are for technical discussions of aspects of OpenBSD.  They
   are NOT for beginning or average users, they are not for problem
   reporting (unless you are including a good fix), and they are not for
   installation problems.  If you have any question about if a message
   should be posted to any of these lists, almost invariably, it should not
   be.  Use <b>misc</b>, above, instead.  <b>Please</b> do not cross post
   to multiple lists.
   
   <dl>
   <dt><b>bugs</b>
   <dd><a href="report.html">Bug reports</a> as sent in via
   <a href="http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=sendbug&amp;sektion=1">sendbug(1)</a>
   and follow-up discussions.  If you wish to have your message logged
   by the <a href="query-pr.html">GNATS</a> bug tracking system, reply
   to <i>gnats@openbsd.org</i>, gnats@ will then forward to <i>bugs@</i>.
   
   <dt><b>ipv6</b>
   <dd>Discussion of IPv6 and IPsec in OpenBSD
   
   <dt><b>ports-bugs</b>
   <dd>Discussion regarding bugs within the OpenBSD ports tree
   
   <dt><b>smp</b>
   <dd>Development of <a href="faq/faq8.html#SMP">multiprocessor</a>
   support in OpenBSD.  Offers to "help test" and complaints about it not
   being completed yet are not appreciated.  Code, however, is welcome.
   
   <dt><b>tech</b>
   <dd>Discussion of technical topics for OpenBSD developers and advanced
   users.  This is <b>not</b> a "tech support" forum, do not use it as
   such.
   
   <dt><b>x11</b>
   <dd>Discussion of X11 development within OpenBSD
   </dl>
   
   <h3>Platform Specific Lists</h3>
   These lists are focused on user issues and development on individual
   platforms.
   <dl>
   <dt><b>alpha</b>
   <dd>OpenBSD/alpha port
   
   <dt><b>hppa</b>
   <dd>OpenBSD/hppa port
   
   <dt><b>mac68k</b>
   <dd>OpenBSD/mac68k port (not PowerPC Macintosh systems)
   
   <dt><b>ppc</b>
   <dd>OpenBSD/macppc port and other PowerPC porting efforts
   
   <dt><b>sparc</b>
   <dd>OpenBSD/sparc and OpenBSD/sparc64 ports
   
   <dt><b>vax</b>
   <dd>OpenBSD/vax port
   </dl>
   
   <h3>CVS Changes Mailing Lists</h3>
   Every time a developer commits a change to the OpenBSD
   <a href="">CVS tree</a>, a message is mailed out to all the subscribers
   of these lists, containing the commit comments.
   
   <dl>
   <dt><b>source-changes</b>
   <dd>Automated mail-out of CVS source tree changes in all the repositories
   other than <i>ports</i>.
   
   <dt><b>ports-changes</b>
   <dd>Automated mail-out of ports-specific CVS source tree changes.
   </dl>
   
   <h3>CTM Lists</h3>
   A number of mailing lists are used by the <a href="ctm.html">CTM</a>,
   an alternative source change distribution system.  See the
   <a href="ctm.html">CTM page</a> for details.
   
   
   <a name="Majordomo"></a>
   <h2><font color="#e00000">Managing Mailing List Membership via
   Majordomo</font></h2>
 <p>  <p>
 OpenBSD also maintains several lists specific to given architectures and special  
 projects. These lists are public in the sense that anyone can subscribe to them, but  
 they should be considered reserved for developers and testers. In keeping with  
 the openness principle of OpenBSD, there are no private mailing  
 lists.<br>  
 If you want to be sent a complete list with all mailing lists available  If you want to be sent a complete list with all mailing lists available
 at openbsd.org, send the command "<strong>lists</strong>" on the body of  at openbsd.org, send the command "<tt>lists</tt>" on the body of
 a message to  a message to
 <a href="mailto:majordomo@OpenBSD.org">majordomo@OpenBSD.org</a>.  <a href="mailto:majordomo@OpenBSD.org">majordomo@OpenBSD.org</a>.
   
 <p>  <p>
 For further assistance, send a message body of "<strong>help</strong>"  To subscribe to a given list, send mail to
   <a href="mailto:majordomo@OpenBSD.org">majordomo@OpenBSD.org</a>
   with a message body of &quot;<b>subscribe mailing-list-name</b>&quot;.
   
   <p>
   For further assistance, send a message body of "<b>help</b>"
 to <a href="mailto:majordomo@OpenBSD.org">majordomo@OpenBSD.org</a>  to <a href="mailto:majordomo@OpenBSD.org">majordomo@OpenBSD.org</a>
 and you will receive a reply outlining all your options.  Your domain  and you will receive a reply outlining all your options.  Your domain
 <strong>MUST</strong> resolve properly or the mail will not go through!  <b>MUST</b> resolve properly or the mail will not go through!
   
   
   <a name="Web"></a>
   <h2><font color="#e00000">Managing Mailing List Membership via
   Web</font></h2>
   Your membership to the OpenBSD mailing lists can also be managed via
   a web interface at:
   <blockquote>
   <a href="http://lists.openbsd.org/">http://lists.openbsd.org/</a>
   </blockquote>
   
   
   <a name="Tricks"></a>
   <h2><font color="#e00000">Mailing Lists Tricks</font></h2>
   There are a number of very useful options that can be selected, either
   by the <a href="http://lists.openbsd.org">web interface</a> or through
   <a href="mailto:majordomo@openbsd.org">Majordomo</a>.  You can change
   your email address without having to unsubscribe and resubscribe, you
   can temporarily disable your message for a few days while you go on
   vacation, and much more.  The user is invited to spend some time reading
   through the options, available by sending
   <a href="mailto:majordomo@openbsd.org">Majordomo</a> a message
   containing "<tt>help</tt>" as the body text, or through the
   "<tt>Help</tt>" tab of the <a href="http://lists.openbsd.org">web
   interface</a>.
   
 <p>  <p>
 The fine folks at <a href="http://www.squish.net/openbsd/">squish.net</a>  As an example, if you were going on vacation for two weeks and didn't
 run mailing lists with daily and weekly digests of the OpenBSD  wish to come back to several thousand e-mails, you can disable the
 <strong>source-changes</strong> mailing list.  This is handy for those  messages from the mail server for the time of your vacation and have
 who don't like the typically high volume of that list.  them automaticly resume upon your scheduled return using the command:
   <pre>
        set all nomail-14d
   </pre>
   
   <h3>Digests</h3>
   If you would prefer to see a "digest" (a consolidated listing of all the
   messages for a time period), rather than getting messages individually
   in "real-time" form, you can use the commands:
   <pre>
        set misc digest-daily
        set source-changes digest-weekly
   </pre>
   for daily digests of the <b>misc</b> list, and weekly digests of the
   <b>source-changes</b> list.  Yes, multiple commands can be placed in one
   Majordomo email.
   
   
   <a name="OtherLists"></a>
   <h2><font color="#e00000">Other Mailing Lists</font></h2>
 <p>  <p>
   The fine folks at
   <a href="http://www.squish.net/openbsd/">squish.net</a> run mailing
   lists with daily and weekly digests of the OpenBSD <b>source-changes</b>
   and <b>ports-changes</b> mailing list.  This is handy for those who
   don't like the typically high volume of that list.
   
   <p>
 The clever monkeys at <a href="http://www.monkey.org/openbsd-mobile/">monkey.org</a>  The clever monkeys at <a href="http://www.monkey.org/openbsd-mobile/">monkey.org</a>
 maintain the <strong>openbsd-mobile</strong> list for people using OpenBSD  maintain the <b>openbsd-mobile</b> list for people using OpenBSD
 on mobile and laptop computers. To subscribe:  on mobile and laptop computers. To subscribe:
 <br>  <br>
 echo subscribe | mail openbsd-mobile-request@monkey.org  echo subscribe | mail openbsd-mobile-request@monkey.org
   
 <p>  <p>
 The insomniac at <a href="http://www.benzedrine.cx/pf/">benzedrine.cx</a>  The insomniac at <a href="http://www.benzedrine.cx/pf/">benzedrine.cx</a>
 maintains the <strong>pf</strong> list for people using the OpenBSD  maintains the <b>pf</b> list for people using the OpenBSD
 packet filter. To subscribe:  packet filter. To subscribe:
 <br>  <br>
 echo subscribe | mail pf-request@benzedrine.cx  echo subscribe | mail pf-request@benzedrine.cx
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 A mailing list for OpenBSD FTP, Web, AnonCVS and CVSup mirror maintainers is  A mailing list for OpenBSD FTP, Web, AnonCVS and CVSup mirror maintainers is
 available at <a href="http://rt.fm/openbsd-mirrors/">rt.fm</a>.  available at <a href="http://rt.fm/openbsd-mirrors/">rt.fm</a>.
   
 <h3><font color="#e00000">Non-English Lists</font></h3>  <a name="nonEnglish"></a>
   <h2><font color="#e00000">Non-English Lists</font></h2>
   
 <p>  Several non-English speaking mailing lists related to OpenBSD are available
 Several non-english speaking mailing lists related to OpenBSD are available  
 separately. Here is a list of the currently known mailing lists:  separately. Here is a list of the currently known mailing lists:
   
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 <p>  <p>
 Chinese:  Chinese:
 <strong>openbsd@shellhung.org</strong>  <b>openbsd@shellhung.org</b>
 <br>To subscribe, visit the URL at:  <br>To subscribe, visit the URL at:
 <a href="http://www.shellhung.org/mailman/listinfo/openbsd/">http://www.shellhung.org/mailman/listinfo/openbsd/</a>.  <a href="http://www.shellhung.org/mailman/listinfo/openbsd/">http://www.shellhung.org/mailman/listinfo/openbsd/</a>.
 -->  -->
   
 <p>  <p>
 Czech:  Czech:
 <strong>users@openbsd.cz</strong>  <b>users@openbsd.cz</b>
 <br>To subscribe, visit the URL at:  <br>To subscribe, visit the URL at:
 <a href="http://openbsd.cz/mailman/listinfo/users/">http://openbsd.cz/mailman/listinfo/users/</a>.  <a href="http://openbsd.cz/mailman/listinfo/users/">http://openbsd.cz/mailman/listinfo/users/</a>.
   
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 <p>  <p>
 Greek:  Greek:
 <strong>openbsd@bsd.gr</strong>  <b>openbsd@bsd.gr</b>
 <br>To subscribe send a mail to  <br>To subscribe send a mail to
 <a href="mailto:majordomo@bsd.gr">majordomo@bsd.gr</a> with a message  <a href="mailto:majordomo@bsd.gr">majordomo@bsd.gr</a> with a message
 body of &quot;<strong>subscribe openbsd</strong>&quot;.  body of &quot;<b>subscribe openbsd</b>&quot;.
   
 <p>  <p>
 Italian:  Italian:
 <a href="http://www.sikurezza.org/">sikurezza.org</a>, an italian language  <a href="http://www.sikurezza.org/">sikurezza.org</a>, an Italian language
 non-commercial security portal hosts <strong>openbsd@sikurezza.org</strong>.  non-commercial security portal hosts <b>openbsd@sikurezza.org</b>.
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 Portuguese:  Portuguese:
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 Spanish:  Spanish:
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 <br>To subscribe, send an empty mail to  <br>To subscribe, send an empty mail to
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 <h3><font color="#e00000">Mailing List Archives:</font></h3>  <a name="Archives"></a>
   <h2><font color="#e00000">Mailing List Archives:</font></h2>
   These mailing list archives are not managed by the OpenBSD project.
   Take the time to look at more than one -- each is a little different,
   and has different search abilities.  If you don't find an answer in
   one, check another.
   
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   General search engines, such as
   <a href="http://www.google.com">Google</a> also prove very effective at
   finding answers to OpenBSD questions.
   
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 <li><a href="http://www.sigmasoft.com/~openbsd/">USA</a>  <li><a href="http://www.sigmasoft.com/~openbsd/">USA</a>
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 <li><a href="http://www.monkey.org/openbsd/">The primates at monkey.org</a>  <li><a href="http://www.monkey.org/openbsd/">The primates at monkey.org</a>
 <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/">MARC</a>  <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/">MARC</a>
 <li><a href="http://bsdsearch.com/eao/phorum/index.php?f=2">BSDSearch.com</a>  <li><a href="http://bsdsearch.com/eao/phorum/index.php?f=2">BSDSearch.com</a>
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