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Do your homework before you post
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Do your homework before you post
If you have an installation question, make sure that you have read *************** *** 54,85 **** installation directories, the FAQ and the relevant man pages (start with afterboot(8)). ! Also check the mailing list archives. We want to help, but we wouldn't want to deprive you of a valuable learning experience, and no one wants to see the same question on the lists for the fifth time in a month.
Include a useful Subject line
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Trim your signature !
Keep the signature lines at the bottom of your mail to a reasonable ! length. PGP signatures and those automatic address cards are merely annoying and are stripped out. Legal disclaimers and advisories are also very annoying, and inappropriate for public mailing lists.
Stay on topic
Please keep the subject of the post relevant to users of OpenBSD.
Include important information
Don't waste everyone's time with a hopelessly incomplete question. --- 53,87 ---- installation directories, the FAQ and the relevant man pages (start with afterboot(8)). ! Also check the mailing list archives. We want to help, but we wouldn't want to deprive you of a valuable learning experience, and no one wants to see the same question on the lists for the fifth time in a month. +

Include a useful Subject line
Messages with an empty Subject will get bounced to the list manager and will take longer to show up. ! Including a relevant Subject in the message will ensure that more people ! actually read what you've written. Also, avoid Subject lines with excessive capitalization. "Help!" or "I can't get it to work!" are not useful subject lines. Do not change the subject line while on the same topic. YOU may know what it is regarding, the rest of us who get several hundred messages a day will have no idea. +

Trim your signature !
Keep the signature lines at the bottom of your mail to a reasonable length. PGP signatures and those automatic address cards are merely annoying and are stripped out. Legal disclaimers and advisories are also very annoying, and inappropriate for public mailing lists. +

Stay on topic
Please keep the subject of the post relevant to users of OpenBSD. +

Include important information
Don't waste everyone's time with a hopelessly incomplete question. *************** *** 89,102 **** All questions should include at least the version of OpenBSD. Any hardware-related questions should mention the platform (i386, amd64, ! etc.) and provide a full ! dmesg(8). Hardware model numbers, unfortunately, don't indicate much about the actual content of a particular machine or accessory, and are useless to anyone who doesn't have that exact machine sitting where they can easily recognize it. ! The dmesg(8) output tells us exactly what is IN your machine, not what stickers are on the outside.
Respect differences in opinion and philosophy
Intelligent people may look at the same set of facts and come to very --- 91,104 ---- All questions should include at least the version of OpenBSD. Any hardware-related questions should mention the platform (i386, amd64, ! etc.) and provide a full dmesg(8). Hardware model numbers, unfortunately, don't indicate much about the actual content of a particular machine or accessory, and are useless to anyone who doesn't have that exact machine sitting where they can easily recognize it. ! The dmesg output tells us exactly what is IN your machine, not what stickers are on the outside. +

Respect differences in opinion and philosophy
Intelligent people may look at the same set of facts and come to very *************** *** 108,114 ****

Spam

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Spam

The OpenBSD lists use spamd(8) ! and SpamAssassin to keep down the spam volume, but things do sneak through from time to time -- deal with it. In addition, the list server also has regex-based rules to reject emails based on some common spam and virus telltales. *************** *** 132,161 ****

General interest lists

These lists are of interest to most users of OpenBSD.
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misc
User questions and answers, general questions. This is the most active list. ! Please, read the FAQ and the installation documents, and see how to report a problem before posting. !
advocacy
Promoting the use of OpenBSD. !
announce !
Announcements and security advisories. ! !
ports
Discussions about using and contributing to the ports tree.

Developer lists

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General interest lists

These lists are of interest to most users of OpenBSD. +
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announce@openbsd.org +
Announcements and security advisories. +
+ (Archive) +

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misc@openbsd.org
User questions and answers, general questions. This is the most active list. ! Please read the FAQ and the installation documents, and see how to report a problem before posting. +
+ (Archive) +

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advocacy@openbsd.org
Promoting the use of OpenBSD. +
+ (Archive) +

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ports@openbsd.org
Discussions about using and contributing to the ports tree. +
+ (Archive) +

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misc@opensmtpd.org +
General discussions, issues and ideas about native and portable OpenSMTPD. + Patches for the portable bits should be pull requests on + Github. +
+ (Archive) +

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users@openbgpd.org + +
General discussions, issues and ideas about native and portable OpenBGPD. + Patches for the portable bits should be pull requests on + Github.
+ +

Developer lists

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bugs !
Bug reports as sent in via ! sendbug(1) ! and follow-up discussions. !
tech !
Discussion of technical topics for OpenBSD developers and advanced ! users. ! This is not a "tech support" forum; do not use it as such. OpenBSD developers will often make patches to implement new features ! and other important changes available for public testing through this ! list. !
libressl
Technical discussion about native and portable LibreSSL. - Users of LibreSSL on any operating system are welcome to participate. - Patches for the native LibreSSL should be sent to this list and use - OpenBSD's CVS tree or a git mirror of it. Patches for the portable bits should be pull requests on ! github.

Reporting security issues

--- 192,219 ---- Use misc instead.
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bugs@openbsd.org !
Bug reports as sent in via ! sendbug(1) and follow-up discussion. !
! (Archive) !

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tech@openbsd.org !
Discussion of technical topics for OpenBSD developers and advanced users. ! This is not a "tech support" forum - do not use it as such. OpenBSD developers will often make patches to implement new features ! and other important changes available for public testing through this list. !
! (Archive) !

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libressl@openbsd.org
Technical discussion about native and portable LibreSSL. Patches for the portable bits should be pull requests on ! Github. !
! (Archive)

Reporting security issues

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libressl-security@openbsd.org -
Report vulnerabilities related to LibreSSL. -
openssh@openssh.com -
Report vulnerabilities related to OpenSSH.
security@openbsd.org
Report vulnerabilities related to OpenBSD.

Platform-specific lists

--- 221,237 ---- These private addresses are for reporting vulnerabilities to the OpenBSD team.
security@openbsd.org
Report vulnerabilities related to OpenBSD. +

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openssh@openssh.com +
Report vulnerabilities related to OpenSSH. +

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libressl-security@openbsd.org +
Report vulnerabilities related to LibreSSL. +

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security@opensmtpd.org +
Report vulnerabilities related to OpenSMTPD.

Platform-specific lists

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alpha !
OpenBSD/alpha port !
arm !
OpenBSD/armv7 port and other ARM porting efforts !
hppa !
OpenBSD/hppa port !
m88k !
OpenBSD/luna88k port !
ppc !
OpenBSD/macppc and other PowerPC porting efforts !
sgi !
OpenBSD/sgi port !
sparc !
OpenBSD/sparc64 port
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CVS changes mailing lists

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source-changes
Automated mail of CVS source tree changes in the src, xenocara and www repositories. !
ports-changes
Automated mail of CVS source tree changes in the ports repository.

Mirror-related lists

! Announcements and discussion relating to mirrors of OpenBSD.
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mirrors-announce
This is a moderated list used solely for important announcements to operators of OpenBSD mirrors. !
mirrors-discuss
Discussion relating to OpenBSD mirrors.

Managing list membership via Majordomo

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alpha@openbsd.org !
OpenBSD/alpha port. !
! (Archive) !

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arm@openbsd.org !
OpenBSD/armv7 and OpenBSD/arm64 ports. !
! (Archive) !

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hppa@openbsd.org !
OpenBSD/hppa port. !
! (Archive) !

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m88k@openbsd.org !
OpenBSD/luna88k port. !
! (Archive) !

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ppc@openbsd.org !
OpenBSD/macppc and other PowerPC porting efforts. !
! (Archive) !

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sgi@openbsd.org !
OpenBSD/sgi port. !
! (Archive) !

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sparc@openbsd.org !
OpenBSD/sparc64 port. !
! (Archive) !
!

CVS changes mailing lists

Every time a developer commits a change to the OpenBSD CVS tree, a message is mailed out to all the subscribers of these lists, containing the commit comments.
!
source-changes@openbsd.org
Automated mail of CVS source tree changes in the src, xenocara and www repositories. +
+ (Archive) +

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ports-changes@openbsd.org
Automated mail of CVS source tree changes in the ports repository. +
+ (Archive) +

Mirror-related lists

! Announcements and discussion relating to mirrors ! of OpenBSD.
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mirrors-announce@openbsd.org
This is a moderated list used solely for important announcements to operators of OpenBSD mirrors. + +

!

mirrors-discuss@openbsd.org
Discussion relating to OpenBSD mirrors. + +

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