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1.57 horacio 18: <h2><font color="#e00000">Mailing Lists</font></h2>
19: <hr>
1.7 downsj 20:
1.28 louis 21: Mailing lists are an important means of communication among users and developers
22: of OpenBSD. With the exception of <i>announce</i>, the lists are not moderated.
23: We deliberately restrict the number of different mailing lists. This helps reduce the
24: amount of cross-posting and makes sure that the information gets distributed to a
25: wide audience.
26: <p>
1.57 horacio 27: <h3><font color="#e00000">Netiquette</font></h3>
1.28 louis 28: <p>
29: Be considerate of other subscribers on the mailing lists.
30: <dl>
31: <dt><u>Plain text, 72 characters per line</u>
1.45 millert 32: <dd>Many subscribers read their mail on text-based mailers (mail(1), emacs)
33: and they find HTML-formatted messages, or lines that stretch beyond 72
34: characters often unreadable.
35: Most OpenBSD mailing lists strip messages of MIME content before
36: sending them out to the rest of the list.
37: If you don't use plain text your messages will be reformatted or,
38: if they cannot be reformatted, summarily rejected.
39: The only mailing list that allows attachments is the <em>ports</em> list,
40: they will be removed from messages on the other mailing lists.
1.28 louis 41: <dt><u>Do your homework before you post</u>
42: <dd>If you have an installation question, make sure that you have read the relevant
43: documents such as the INSTALL.* text files in the FTP installation directories, the
1.57 horacio 44: <a href="faq/index.html">FAQ</a> and the relevant man pages (start with
45: <a href= "http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=afterboot&sektion=8">afterboot(8)</a>). Make sure you include relevant
46: details (version, hardware,
47: <a href= "http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=dmesg&sektion=8">dmesg(8)</a>) that will help in troubleshooting. We want to
1.28 louis 48: help, but we wouldn't want to deprive you of a valuable learning experience.
1.45 millert 49: <dt><u>Include a useful Subject line</u>
50: <dd>Messages with an empty Subject will get bounced to the list manager and
1.57 horacio 51: so they will take longer to show up. Including a relevant Subject in the message
1.45 millert 52: will ensure that more people actually read what you've written.
53: Also, avoid Subject lines with excessive capitalization.
1.28 louis 54: <dt><u>Trim your signature</u>
55: <dd>Keep the signature lines at the bottom of your mail to a reasonable length. Posts
56: are rarely critical enough to warrant a PGP signature, and those automatic address
57: cards are merely annoying.
58: <dt><u>Stay on topic</u>
59: <dd>Please keep the subject of the post relevant to users of OpenBSD.
60: </dl>
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1.33 millert 62: <p>
1.57 horacio 63: <h3><font color="#e00000">Spam</font></h3>
1.33 millert 64: <p>
1.39 horacio 65: Spam is always forbidden but sometimes things slip through the
1.33 millert 66: cracks. If you get spam through one of the OpenBSD mailing lists,
67: you might want to submit it to <a href="http://spamcop.net">spamcop</a>.
68: In general, you don't have to send a copy to the list owner--chances
1.42 millert 69: are he's already seen it. Please note that complaining about
70: spam on the list proper is counter-productive as it generates more
71: traffic than the spam itself...
1.33 millert 72: <br>
73: The OpenBSD mailing lists will deny mail from any host on the
74: <a href="http://www.mail-abuse.org/rbl/">MAPS RBL</a>,
1.42 millert 75: <a href="http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul/">MAPS Dialup</a> or
76: <a href="http://www.mail-abuse.org/rss/">MAPS RSS</a> blacklists.
77: In addition, the list server also has regex-based rules to reject
78: based on some common spam telltales.
1.33 millert 79:
1.57 horacio 80: <h3><font color="#e00000">The Mailing Lists</font></h3>
1.1 deraadt 81: <p>
1.28 louis 82: To subscribe to a given list, send mail to
1.57 horacio 83: <a href="mailto:majordomo@OpenBSD.org">majordomo@OpenBSD.org</a>
1.28 louis 84: with a message body of "<strong>subscribe mailing-list-name</strong>".
1.1 deraadt 85: <dl>
86: <dt><strong>announce</strong>
1.31 millert 87: <dd>Important announcements. This low volume list
1.28 louis 88: is excellent for people who just want occasional news about the project.
1.31 millert 89: <dt><strong>security-announce</strong>
90: <dd>Security announcements. This low volume list receives OpenBSD
91: security advisories and pointers to security patches as they become
92: available.
1.26 ian 93: <dt><strong>misc</strong>
1.28 louis 94: <dd>User questions and answers, general questions. This is the most active list.
1.57 horacio 95: Please, <a href="faq/index.html">read the FAQ</a> and the installation documents
1.28 louis 96: before you post.
1.1 deraadt 97: <dt><strong>tech</strong>
1.29 louis 98: <dd>Technical topics for OpenBSD developers and advanced users.
1.57 horacio 99: <strong>Please</strong>, direct 'new user' and installation-related questions
100: to <em>misc</em>. <strong>Please, do not</strong> cross-post to both
1.29 louis 101: <em>misc</em> and <em>tech</em>.
1.5 graichen 102: <dt><strong>bugs</strong>
1.57 horacio 103: <dd><a href="report.html">Bug reports</a> as sent in via
104: <a href="http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=sendbug&sektion=1">sendbug(1)</a> and follow-up discussions.
1.1 deraadt 105: <dt><strong>source-changes</strong>
1.28 louis 106: <dd>Automated mailout of CVS source tree changes.
1.11 deraadt 107: <dt><strong>ports</strong>
1.28 louis 108: <dd>Discussions about using and contributing to the 'ports' source tree.
1.40 millert 109: <dt><strong>ports-changes</strong>
110: <dd>Automated mailout of ports-specific CVS source tree changes.
1.38 todd 111: <dt><strong>ipv6</strong>
112: <dd>Discussions about OpenBSD IP version 6.
1.17 art 113: <dt><strong>advocacy</strong>
1.28 louis 114: <dd>Promoting the use of OpenBSD. Non-technical discussions in
115: <em>misc</em> often get shunted here.
1.32 chris 116: <dt><strong>smp</strong>
117: <dd>Discussion of Symmetric Multi-Processing design and implementation
118: on OpenBSD.
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121: <p>
1.28 louis 122: OpenBSD also maintains several lists specific to given architectures and special
123: projects. These lists are public in the sense that anyone can subscribe to them, but
124: they should be considered reserved for developers and testers. In keeping with
1.57 horacio 125: the openness principle of OpenBSD, there are no private mailing
126: lists.<br>
127: If you want to be sent a complete list with all mailing lists available
128: at openbsd.org, send the command "<strong>lists</strong>" on the body of
129: a message to
130: <a href="mailto:majordomo@OpenBSD.org">majordomo@OpenBSD.org</a>.
1.28 louis 131:
132: <p>
1.1 deraadt 133: For further assistance, send a message body of "<strong>help</strong>"
1.57 horacio 134: to <a href="mailto:majordomo@OpenBSD.org">majordomo@OpenBSD.org</a>
1.13 deraadt 135: and you will receive a reply outlining all your options. Your domain
136: <strong>MUST</strong> resolve properly or the mail will not go through!
1.1 deraadt 137:
1.29 louis 138: <p>
1.42 millert 139: The fine folks at <a href="http://www.squish.net/openbsd/">squish.net</a>
140: run mailing lists with daily and weekly digests of the OpenBSD
141: <strong>source-changes</strong> mailing list. This is handy for those
142: who don't like the typically high volume of that list.
143:
144: <p>
1.39 horacio 145: The clever monkeys at <a href="http://www.monkey.org/openbsd-mobile/">monkey.org</a>
1.29 louis 146: maintain the <strong>openbsd-mobile</strong> list for people using OpenBSD
147: on mobile and laptop computers. To subscribe:
148: <br>
149: echo subscribe | mail openbsd-mobile-request@monkey.org
150:
1.50 jufi 151: <p>
1.61 dhartmei 152: The insomniac at <a href="http://www.benzedrine.cx/pf/">benzedrine.cx</a>
153: maintains the <strong>pf</strong> list for people using the OpenBSD
154: packet filter. To subscribe:
155: <br>
156: echo subscribe | mail pf-request@benzedrine.cx
157:
158: <p>
1.50 jufi 159: A mailing list for OpenBSD FTP, Web, AnonCVS and CVSup mirror maintainers is
160: available at <a href="http://rt.fm/openbsd-mirrors/">rt.fm</a>.
161:
1.57 horacio 162: <h3><font color="#e00000">Non-English Lists</font></h3>
1.28 louis 163:
1.1 deraadt 164: <p>
1.59 miod 165: Several non-english speaking mailing lists related to OpenBSD are available
166: separately. Here is a list of the currently known mailing lists:
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174: Chinese:
175: <strong>openbsd@shellhung.org</strong>
176: <br>To subscribe, visit the URL at:
177: <a href="http://www.shellhung.org/mailman/listinfo/openbsd/">http://www.shellhung.org/mailman/listinfo/openbsd/</a>.
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1.59 miod 179:
180: <p>
181: Czech:
182: <strong>users@openbsd.cz</strong>
183: <br>To subscribe, visit the URL at:
184: <a href="http://openbsd.cz/mailman/listinfo/users/">http://openbsd.cz/mailman/listinfo/users/</a>.
185:
186: <p>
1.64 nick 187: German:
188: <strong>liste@openbsd.de</strong>
189: <br>To subscribe, please visit the URL at:
190: <a href="https://www.openbsd.de/listen/listinfo/liste">https://www.openbsd.de/listen/listinfo/liste</a>.
191:
192: <p>
1.59 miod 193: Greek:
194: <strong>openbsd@bsd.gr</strong>
195: <br>To subscribe send a mail to
196: <a href="mailto:majordomo@bsd.gr">majordomo@bsd.gr</a> with a message
197: body of "<strong>subscribe openbsd</strong>".
1.18 deraadt 198:
199: <p>
1.59 miod 200: Italian:
201: <a href="http://www.sikurezza.org/">sikurezza.org</a>, an italian language
202: non-commercial security portal hosts <strong>openbsd@sikurezza.org</strong>.
203: <br>To subscribe just send an empty message to <a
204: href="mailto:openbsd-subscribe@sikurezza.org">openbsd-subscribe@sikurezza.org</a>.
205:
206: <p>
207: Japanese: Please visit the URL at:
208: <a href="http://www.openbsd.ics.nara-wu.ac.jp/wakakusa">http://www.openbsd.ics.nara-wu.ac.jp/wakakus</a>
209: for more information.
210:
211: <p>
212: Polish: to subscribe, send mail to
1.55 miod 213: <a href="mailto:OpenBSD-request@bsdzine.org">OpenBSD-request@bsdzine.org</a>.
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215: <p>
1.59 miod 216: Portuguese:
217: <strong>openbsd@neei.uevora.pt</strong>
218: <br>To subscribe, visit the URL at:
219: <a href="http://neei.uevora.pt/mailman/listinfo/openbsd/">http://neei.uevora.pt/mailman/listinfo/openbsd/</a>.
220:
221: <p>
1.60 miod 222: Russian:
223: <strong>openbsd@openbsd.ru</strong>
1.47 form 224: <br>To subscribe, send mail to
225: <a href="mailto:minimalist@openbsd.ru">minimalist@openbsd.ru</a> with
226: subject "<strong>subscribe openbsd</strong>".
1.34 form 227:
228: <p>
1.62 fgsch 229: Spanish:
230: <strong>misc@openbsd.org.mx</strong>, run from Mexico.
1.43 horacio 231: <br>To subscribe, send an empty mail to
1.65 ! nick 232: <a href="mailto:misc-subscribe@openbsd.org.mx">misc-subscribe@openbsd.org.mx</a>.
1.49 horacio 233:
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1.57 horacio 235: <h3><font color="#e00000">Mailing List Archives:</font></h3>
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1.27 ericj 241: <li><a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/4/OpenBSD">Geocrawler Archive</a>
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1.39 horacio 245: <li><a href="http://www.monkey.org/openbsd/">The primates at monkey.org</a>
1.41 avsm 246: <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/">MARC</a>
1.51 heko 247: <li><a href="http://bsdsearch.com/eao/phorum/index.php?f=2">BSDSearch.com</a>
248: <li><a href="http://www.netsys.com/archives.html">@netsys.com</a>
1.57 horacio 249: <li>Neohapsis has a
250: <a href="http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/">mixed archive
251: for tech@, misc@ and ports@</a> and a
252: <a href="http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/cvs/">mixed
253: archive for CVS commits</a>
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