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1.10      ian        17: <h2><font color="#e00000">OpenBSD: Users' View</font></h2>
1.1       ian        18: <p>Many users have commented on their use of OpenBSD.
1.10      ian        19: The following are unsolicited comments from our public mailing lists or,
1.3       ian        20: occasionally, other mailing lists (these have links to the original articles).
1.6       ian        21: Postings have been shortened, and edited slightly for spelling and grammar,
1.1       ian        22: but are otherwise unchanged.
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1.8       deraadt    24: <hr>
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1.13    ! henning    26: <h3><a href="mailto:SKohrman@apu.edu">Shawn Kohrman</a> writes:</h3>
        !            27: <p>
        !            28: As a Security/Network Administrator for over ten years, I have to say
        !            29: OpenBSD is hands down the best out-of-the-box OS I have seen yet.  I
        !            30: have worked with MS NT/2000, Linux (from it's humble beginnings),
        !            31: Solaris, etc.  OpenBSD is simple, clean, secure and reliable.  Many
        !            32: thanks to the developers for an outstanding job.
        !            33:
1.10      ian        34: <h3><a href="mailto:kristoff@phatness.net">Kris Wilkinson</a> writes:</h3>
                     35: <p>
                     36: I've been securing networks for quite some time now, and until recently
                     37: when I installed Open BSD 3.0 I never realized how easy my life could have
                     38: been had I tried it earlier.
                     39: After experiencing all the "other" operating systems available, 3.0 has to
                     40: be the most secure, easily managed and well organized package I have ever seen.
                     41: Not only is it completely cutting edge, it focuses on the smaller points of
                     42: security which I'm tired of having to manually tweak every time you setup a box.
                     43: <p>
                     44: I am securing networks all over Alberta using your fantastic
                     45: setup. Thank you so much! Keep up the incredible work.
                     46:
1.8       deraadt    47: <h3>Matthew Haas says this:</h3>
1.1       ian        48: <p>
                     49: I've been very impressed with OpenBSD since my decision to install it.
                     50: Definitely a great system, reminds me of my Slackware days, but better.
                     51: <p>
                     52: Thanks.
                     53:
1.8       deraadt    54: <h3>
1.7       ian        55: <a href="mailto:webmaster@2600.org.au">Grant Bayley</a>,
1.8       deraadt    56: an IT Manager from Australia, writes:</h3>
1.1       ian        57: <p>
                     58: By way of success stories, since a few of us at 2600 Australia started
                     59: using OpenBSD about 12 months ago now in some form or another, we've seen...
                     60: friends load it onto their machines and been simply amazed
                     61: at the quality of it, in particular the forethought that goes into
                     62: securing things out of the box.
                     63: <p>
                     64: We've also had one of our guys working at an ISP go head-to-head with an
                     65: in-house SuSE zealot of sorts on a compatibility, stability and security
                     66: test in advance of them selecting an operating system for their servers
                     67: (which, while using RedHat, had been rooted at least once).  OpenBSD passed
1.6       ian        68: with flying colors and as of today, they're beginning a roll-out of 2.6
1.1       ian        69: onto their servers, mostly using stock components and software from the
                     70: ports tree (qmail, cucipop etc).
                     71:
1.8       deraadt    72: <h3>System and Network Administrator Jeff Schneiter offers this:</h3>
1.1       ian        73: <p> With a frozen budget it sure makes one squeeze every last
                     74: bit of power out of whatever hardware one can lay his hands
                     75: on... and thanks to OpenBSD, I have been doing just that.
                     76:
1.8       deraadt    77: <h3><a name=sarendal href="mailto:tony@polarcap.org">Tony Sarendal</a> says this:</h3>
1.1       ian        78: <p>I tried OpenBSD because of the IPsec support.
                     79: The reason I stick with it is because it really is nice to use
                     80: and it gives a feeling of quality which no other OS can match.
                     81: <p>
                     82: I did some programming on an OpenBSD machine, after this I really
                     83: appreciated the man pages. Other Unices I used had man pages that
                     84: simply weren't any good.
                     85: <p>
                     86: Keep up the good work guys.
                     87:
1.8       deraadt    88: <h3>Security Engineer Tyler Allison writes:</h3>
1.1       ian        89: <p>
1.6       ian        90: I have installed, secured, and maintained Linux, Windows NT and OpenBSD in
                     91: highly secure environments. (yes you can secure Linux and Windows NT in
1.1       ian        92: this environment :)  ).  Having said that I have to point out that if you
                     93: want a minimum administration to keep up with security issues option you
                     94: need to pick OpenBSD by far.  It is not uncommon for people to go years without
                     95: updating their production OpenBSD machines because they are just rock solid
                     96: and there are no known "remote" vulnerabilities.  Thus no good reason to
                     97: upgrade...
                     98: <p>
                     99: I would feel perfectly happy to have one of my [novice] interns do a basic
                    100: OpenBSD install on a PC (no extra security work after the install) and then put
                    101: the companies crown jewels on that machine and then walk away for a year.
                    102: Knowing full well that machine hasn't crashed, been broken into or in need
                    103: of an OS upgrade.  You can't say that about NT or Linux.
                    104: Or if you do you obviously havent ever used the product that way :)
                    105: <p>
                    106: Another thing that I hear people point out is go check your local exploit
                    107: site or vulnerability alert mailing list and see if you can find a "remote"
                    108: root level exploit that works on OpenBSD. I dare say you won't find any that
                    109: are less than 12 months old.
                    110:
1.8       deraadt   111: <h3>Jan Johansson gave this reply to a "how do I build a cheap web server?" query:</h3>
1.1       ian       112: <p>
                    113: I work today with Solaris, OpenBSD, NT Server, NT Workstation and Win 95.
                    114: <p>
                    115: After reading Bugtraq for some weeks I will say that I will never put
                    116: any (important) machine on the Internet if there is not a firewall in
                    117: front and for packet filtering I go for OpenBSD...
                    118: <p>
1.6       ian       119: For a cheap web server I say hardware from a known vendor, an ordered
1.1       ian       120: OpenBSD CD-ROM and Apache...
                    121:
                    122:
1.8       deraadt   123: <h3><a href="mailto:wyodlows@nj.devry.edu">
                    124: William Yodlowsky</a> at Devry Institute wrote:</h3>
1.1       ian       125:
1.4       ian       126: <p>[A few] years ago I was just getting into system administration.  I learned
1.1       ian       127: Linux first.  Then one of our old (I mean *really* old) BSDi servers
                    128: crashed, and it was up to me to rebuild the system.
                    129: <p>
                    130: I looked at FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and Linux.  In the end, it came down
                    131: to "secure and stable" that took the prize.  OpenBSD 2.1 was installed.
                    132: <p>
                    133: Since then, I've run 2.1-2.5 on everything from production servers to
                    134: laptops.  We've never (repeat: NEVER) had a break-in.
                    135: <p>
                    136: A coworker setup a RedHat based box to test his skills at setting up SSL
                    137: and a secure web site.
                    138: It was hacked literally overnight, and by the next morning was attacking
                    139: other sites.
                    140: <p>
                    141: Our OpenBSD servers were probed and then left alone.
                    142: <p>
                    143: In the intervening two years, that original server got upgraded
                    144: and patched several
                    145: times and the OS never gave us reason to question the reliability or
                    146: security of OpenBSD.
                    147: <p>
                    148: We have another box, acting as a router for about 800 workstations doing
                    149: very basic filtering and NAT.  It's on a P120 with 32MB RAM and typically
                    150: the uptime would look like this:
                    151: <pre>
                    152: % uptime
                    153:  9:05PM  up 266 days,  4:23, 1 user, load averages: 0.06, 0.06, 0.06
                    154: %</pre>
                    155: <p>As well, OpenBSD runs on my laptop.
1.6       ian       156: A Gateway Solo 2500 with a Xircom modem, and a Linksys fast Ethernet NIC.
1.1       ian       157: <p>
                    158: And it never crashes :)
                    159: <p>
1.4       ian       160: One other incident that made me a believer... we were pingbombed
                    161: [perhaps a predecessor to the early2000 DDOS attacks?].  I mean,
1.1       ian       162: 900 different hosts on different networks floodpinging an OpenBSD 2.3 box
1.6       ian       163: simultaneously, while it was processing email and web pages for 3500 users.
1.1       ian       164: <p>
                    165: It was a P133 with 64MB ram.  And it didn't go down.  It got a bit slower,
                    166: but never crashed :-)
                    167:
1.8       deraadt   168: <h3>John J. Adelsberger III said this about us in Bruce Schneier's
1.1       ian       169: <a href="http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-0004.html#CommentsfromReaders">
1.8       deraadt   170: Crypto-Gram</a>:</h3>
1.2       ian       171: (the comments he is responding to are Schneier's)
1.1       ian       172: <br>
1.6       ian       173: <br>&gt; Real systems show no signs of becoming less
                    174: <br>&gt; complex. In fact, they are becoming more complex,
                    175: <br>&gt; faster and faster. Microsoft Windows is a poster
                    176: <br>&gt; child for this trend to complexity.
1.1       ian       177: <br>...
1.6       ian       178: <br>&gt; The other choice is to slow down, to simplify,
                    179: <br>&gt; and to try to add security.
1.1       ian       180: <p>
                    181: OpenBSD does this. <I>I am unaware of any other group whose workings
                    182: are publicly viewable that does so</I> [emphasis added], which is regrettable, because
                    183: I would prefer not to have this appear as an OpenBSD plug; rather,
                    184: my purpose is to point out that not only is this approach feasible,
                    185: but it is being done.
                    186:
1.8       deraadt   187: <h3>Andrew Hermetz commented as follows:</h3>
1.1       ian       188: <p>Hey all,
                    189: <p>Just wanted to drop a line and thank all who have worked to make OpenBSD
                    190: such a clean, cool, &amp; efficient project.
                    191: <p>Major kudos to Theo for being a man ahead of his time! ;-)
                    192: <p>As I have to frequently explain to people *why* security is important at
                    193: all ("if you have nothing to hide...", "nothing you do is important enough to
1.6       ian       194: warrant encryption...", "only criminals and terrorists need to sneak around
1.1       ian       195: anonymously...", etc. ad nauseam), let alone *why* it's important in this day
                    196: and age of personal networks behind a DSL or even a full T1, I love being able
1.6       ian       197: to point them to a page which sets out a well-reasoned explanation for taking
1.1       ian       198: computer security seriously.
                    199: <p>[... OpenBSD installed]
                    200: effortlessly onto a Pentium 90 Compaq LTE 5100 laptop -- even the no-name
                    201: brand LAN card came right up and did a kickass install over a friend's office
                    202: T1. When I sing its praises, the thing that seems to get most people is its
1.10      ian       203: spartan look &amp; feel, but I like knowing where everything is and not having a
1.1       ian       204: distro that shoves [stuff] into dark corners I'll never find...
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